^^ very true, I mean if not being able to bring back a lost comrade makes you weak then the First Hokage was a real weakling because he couldn't bring back Madara...right?
I am an artist, and my medium is death. I'm about to create my masterpiece :s
Fan of the Rasengan Doujutsu theory, even though it's dead. Although, he does have the special Uzumaki clan blood.
To say Genjutsu = victory over J-Man is to say Kureni can beat'em!
I think Genjutsu is really overratted. But in the case of Tsuki... which is arguably the ultimate Genjutsu is a different matter.
But Tsukiyomi has not been explored deep enough to actually analize its properties to draw the conclusion that there is no way of escaping it. We can only go on what was displayed by Itachi.
Beware of the Kyubii
Stev3child - The biggest pussy of them all is rokudaime sennin though. If he was a real man, he wouldn't have relied on hax god-given powers to seal the Jyubi. He would have suplexed that bitch and ripped each tail from the beast one by one with his bare hands.
The toad song is less versatile than tsuki imo. But it really comes down to the effect. Tsuki rapes your mind so...yea XD
Both are excellent ninja and really hard to compare, but I'll go with Jiraiya > Itachi.
Jiraiya is about as fast as itachi so in taijutsu, I'll say they're even.
itachi has more talent in genjutsu, but jiraiya has whole myobokuzan in his stomach.
I am referring to when he said to itachi and kisame, "you both are trapped in my stomach" and the fact that he had the key frog inside his belly, so I'll say the chance for him to get trapped in genjutsu is small, and will be about nil if he's already in sage mode. He has ma pa, faster and else.
In ninjutsu, I'll say that jiraiya is stronger. Itachi has amaterasu, but since Jiraiya already saw, sealed and analyzed one, I think he has a counter for it. I think this is also the reason naruto know about amaterasu. When Itachi in susano, basically if jiraiya wait long enough, itachi will die automatically. and he can also use frog song, since itachi still can hear, he will get trapped and all is over for him.