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    Quote Originally Posted by redstrife View Post
    underestimated.
    but you must ask yourself if you posting that,
    why did he run then??

    Erosennin>Itachi

    i still think both are GREAT charaters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ofTheDesert View Post
    You mean Itachi running away?
    Yes ... but now that I think about it ... Itachi did use MS a bunch of times that day, so he may have been low on chakra. So the best thing for him to do was to retreat.

    Still, I'm not convinced Itachi > Jiraiya. It'd be a tough match, but it's hard to say who'd come out on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstrife View Post
    Yes ... but now that I think about it ... Itachi did use MS a bunch of times that day, so he may have been low on chakra. So the best thing for him to do was to retreat.
    Yeah maybe but still it is no argument for Itachi>Jiraya.
    Sorry i read your post wrong. I thought you wanna argue that Itachi is > Jiraya

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    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/07/

    He was there for advising the elders so why would he start a fight there after all jiraya was not his enemy & for sure if he would have stayed there fighting other ninjas would have come & hence it would be a really big problem since he wasn't there to fight anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstrife View Post
    Why did he retreat?

    Same reason he slayed the Clan....

    To keep Konoha and the Will of Fire Alive and Strong.

    It was PROVED by Madara, that Itachi was actually a Hero of Konoha.
    Betrayed his own clan to protect Konoha and avoid a war.
    Wanted Sasuke to be viewed as a Hero.

    Thus... If you truly analyze the character and the guy Itachi really was, it proves he would NEVER want to harm Jiraiya, since that would only hurt Konoha, the very village he sacrificed his life for.

    Makes no sense. Battling Jiraiya would only give Kisame a boner, and Kisame would attack Konoha with waves of destruction.

    Why would Itachi want that?

    So, he lied to Kisame, and made Jiraiya seem FAR STRONGER than he really was. Kisame listened to Itachi, and believed him.

    By retreating, Itachi was actually SAVING Jiraiya, and Konoha as well, without making it seem like he was a good guy.

    Tricky Guy.

    If Itachi wanted to, he could of Amaterasu'd the entire village, but you heard him, they didn't go to Konoha to start a war.

    Itachi was there because of Sasuke.

    So this running away bullshit is seriously pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofTheDesert View Post
    Yeah maybe but still it is no argument for Itachi>Jiraya.
    yes there's argumen & it's called Hypothetical syllogism & it's a logical argument
    where
    P → Q.
    Q → R.
    Therefore, P → R.
    So
    Itachi > Oro
    Oro >jiraya
    Then Itachi >jiraya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bringmethehorizon View Post
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/401/07/

    He was there for advising the elders so why would he start a fight there after all jiraya was not his enemy & for sure if he would have stayed there fighting other ninjas would have come & hence it would be a really big problem since he wasn't there to fight anyone
    so why would he be there to collect naruto in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lupo_moua View Post
    so why would he be there to collect naruto in the first place?
    For advising him that akatsuki a powerful organization is looking for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ackwell View Post
    Why did he retreat?

    Same reason he slayed the Clan....

    To keep Konoha and the Will of Fire Alive and Strong.

    It was PROVED by Madara, that Itachi was actually a Hero of Konoha.
    Betrayed his own clan to protect Konoha and avoid a war.
    Wanted Sasuke to be viewed as a Hero.

    Thus... If you truly analyze the character and the guy Itachi really was, it proves he would NEVER want to harm Jiraiya, since that would only hurt Konoha, the very village he sacrificed his life for.

    Makes no sense. Battling Jiraiya would only give Kisame a boner, and Kisame would attack Konoha with waves of destruction.

    Why would Itachi want that?

    So, he lied to Kisame, and made Jiraiya seem FAR STRONGER than he really was. Kisame listened to Itachi, and believed him.

    By retreating, Itachi was actually SAVING Jiraiya, and Konoha as well, without making it seem like he was a good guy.


    Tricky Guy.

    If Itachi wanted to, he could of Amaterasu'd the entire village, but you heard him, they didn't go to Konoha to start a war.

    Itachi was there because of Sasuke.

    So this running away bullshit is seriously pathetic.

    That is all speculation, unless of course you can find chapters in the manga that say this.

    And no, Itachi didn't use Ameratsu because that would go against his entire reason for murdering his whole clan in the first place. As part of the deal with Madara, Konoha was off limits, remember?

    And no, Itachi wasn't there for Sasuke, he was there for Naruto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bringmethehorizon View Post
    yes there's argumen & it's called Hypothetical syllogism & it's a logical argument
    where
    P → Q.
    Q → R.
    Therefore, P → R.
    So
    Itachi > Oro
    Oro >jiraya
    Then Itachi >jiraya
    Who says Oro>Jiraya ?

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