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    I was definitely talking about the war and timeskip era. Nowadays we cannot get a large posting group no matter how controversial the chapters are, not to mention this week's chapter, albeit strongh was basically was a flashback/filler and offered no real topic starters :/.

    My thinking is Buffalo is the big guy on Doflamingo's crew (to give a suggestion of who Buffalo is). I still am curious as to how the villains are going to come out of this arc. Caesar is almost a gauranteed lose and if Doflamingo cuts his losses with the SAD, Caesar definitely becomes a non-factor after this arc. Monet, too, has already failed and already having her acknowledge the fact Doflamingo will dispose of her if she fails, her story is open. Personally, I'm hoping Sanji senses her in danger, rushes back to save her, arrives once more with the entire group in Room R admolishing Zoro for endangering a women like Monet, and then showing a true display of chivalry about how no man has the right to kill a lady when Monet says Zoro was right in how Sanji should have simply left her to die, as Doflamingo would see to it anyway. It is sort of a more idealic outcome than what likely will happen, but seeing as she's likely done in Doflamingo's crew, the scene would be a nice seqway into continuing her story within the crew (we have found an interesting logia who cannot beat any of the MT) or as I'm assuming. leaving because she fears Zoro so much to join Law's crew more fittingly.

    Addtionally, I have a hard time imagining Vergo will fail, and even if he does, his standing with Doflamingo is likely to earn little more than a hysterical laughing fit of Doflamingo saying it doesn't matter anymore or that the SHs are truly and already becoming troublesome in the NW.

    Thus, my two basic predictions/outcomes:

    --Caesar and Monet fail and are abandoned by Doflamingo, Vergo escapes unscathed upon the arrival of Buffalo and Baby 5
    --Even as the baddies (slight possibility of including Vergo in this case) are defeated, the arrival of Buffalo and Baby 5 at the end of the arc concludes with the latter two carrying their comrades back to Dressrosa.

    That should be enough to discuss for a bit at least.
    Last edited by Blackriot69; 11-14-2012 at 11:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggeroff View Post
    hmm... when Luffy first used his King's Haki it was unintentional, and when Shanks when to Whitebeard's ship he said that he was sorry about using his King's Haki, but he couldn't help it since he was on a enemy's ship. So that makes me wonder, Is King's Haki done from a reflex? If that's the case, Luffy may use it accidentally in the future during times of stress and accidentally knock out his friends. Not any of his crew members of course, even Ussop has been shown to be able to withstand King's Haki, but more so people he helps during each arc.
    I don't think the King's Haki is done by reflex. I mean if it was, then you wouldn't be able to control it, thus the reflex part. From what I've seen, I reckon that the users can control the strength and targets if they wanted to. In Shanks case, he had it out on full blast because he was on an enemy ship. It's not like he had to make sure to avoid anyone. As for people like Ussopu and Co, well don't forget that Rayleigh released a blast at the auction hall, and none of the SH's fainted. Having said that, Rayleigh most likely held back since he didn't want to show off who he really was. But from what we can tell, Ussopu should be at least able to withstand CoC from someone of Luffy's level.

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    CoC can be voluntary and involuntary at the same time. It's base power is through emotion. It can be triggered involuntarily through anger or when your in a pinch and it can be triggered whenever you like.

    Shanks on the other just don't give a shit about his CoC. He just let it loose.

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    Shanks is a BA.
    One thing I've never been able to wrap my head around is mihawk/Shanks.

    Mihawk is the best swordmaster around.
    Shanks a yonkou that at best sparred with him at even terms (when he had two arms.)
    So that makes a shichibukai more powerful than a yonkou??
    Since we know shanks doesn't have a DF, and the kings haki shouldn't make him better in one on ones.

    If anyone could prove me wrong I'd be grateful, since this bugs me.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dashido View Post
    Shanks is a BA.
    One thing I've never been able to wrap my head around is mihawk/Shanks.

    Mihawk is the best swordmaster around.
    Shanks a yonkou that at best sparred with him at even terms (when he had two arms.)
    So that makes a shichibukai more powerful than a yonkou??


    Since we know shanks doesn't have a DF, and the kings haki shouldn't make him better in one on ones.

    If anyone could prove me wrong I'd be grateful, since this bugs me.

    Cheers.
    What do you mean by BA?

    Yonkou's strength is not just based on personal strength. It's your power as a whole crew. Mihawk can't be called a Yonkou as he doesn't have such crew even though him and Shanks are practically on the same level in terms of personal strength. That's the main difference between a shichibukai and a Yonkou.

    Having CoC doesn't assure anyone of being better than anyone else. I feel Shanks is one of those guys who is just too fast, too strong and too smart. In short a complete fighter. losing an arm may decreased his swordmanship but will only improved on other aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arisart View Post
    What do you mean by BA?
    I think he ment Bad Ass
    Aggravate, Anger, and Piss off


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