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    Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    Even though it was obvious and too expected that this day would have come.
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    Oro's BODY got weaker. He didn't lose any of his intelligence and abilities..
    Hes body obviously gave up.
    Did you just argue with yourself? Seriously? o.O

    I agree - Sasuke is pretty meh, the only interesting thing about him is his cool looking MS.

    Oh and as you said Oro called the 3rd sensei, maybe he done it in a mocking way?
    And I don't believe Sasuke ever called anyone sensei, he just uses them for power and then ditches them.
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    Agree, he is a arrogant disrespectful fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    I didn't get what you mean here... Mind to explain it further..?
    What I'm Saying is that Sarutobi trained and cared for Orochimaru as a person and tried to instil the will of fire in him he wasnt just using him to get his abilities. Kakashi did the same for Sasuke that makes him his equivelent. Ororchimaru was just using Sasuke he cared nothing for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    Orochimaru and Sasuke are far from being alike!

    - Sarutobi knew Orochimaru was seeking revenge, this he shoul've prepared himself (Which he did)
    - Sarutobi betrayed Orochimaru, Orochimaru didn't betray his friends nor the village, they betrayed him. (For greater goods of course) Later on secretly started doing experiments... before that he was only cold..
    - Orochimaru knew Sasuke was gonna turn on him
    Spoiler!


    - Nonsense Orochimaru was a sick puppy who proved him self too warped to be Hokage. He was doing naughty things long before Sarutobi caught him, its just that he was more carefull in hiding it. Afterwards he got sloppy and eventually drew attention to himself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    Didn't I mention why he still shouldn't prepared for speech and started disrespecting him? Did you read the first page at all...
    - The speech was fitting there is no need to be polite to someone who is just using you as a tool. What happened to Orochimaru was Karma how many people has he used as tools with no regard for thier lives.

    -When Kimmaro died his most loyal diehard subject he said he doesnt care about Kimmaro anymore

    - the 2 sound Gennin who he killed and used for Edo tensei

    - The countless others he uses as toys and experiments , why should Sasuke give a damn about Orochimaru . The things you do to others will eventually come back to you. He wanted to use Sasuke as a tool and he ended up becoming Sasuke's tool its called Karma.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    Sry, I'm still unable to get where you're getting at?...
    Kishi is using a common theme seen in many stories where thier is a close relationship between the main charcter and one of the primary villans. Like in Star wars Luke and Vader being father and son or Metal Gear Snake being gentically related to Big Boss , Liquid , Solidious , or in Trigun Vash's brother Knives , or in X men Proffessor Xaiver being old friends with Magneto.

    - The thing is these realtionships are always explained in narration or flashbacks latter on in the story you never see it form the begining. Naruto is different you get to see how the rivals became close then why they seperated and walked thier diffrent paths.

    - Having one of the villans closely releated to the main charcter adds more tension and drama. Its easy to hate someone who is just a villan but someone who was once considered a close friend adds another dynamic to the situation.

    This is what I meant


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    Freaky, please tell me you wont turn into a serial killer one day...


    orchimaru was using saskue for his sharingan, so whats the big deal if saskue used orchimaru for his vast amount of jutsus.

    A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

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    We all know that sasuke is the biggest douche bag in the Naruto Universe by and large. He was shitty to everyone, Naruto, sakura, kakashi, you pick a name he was probably a douche bag to them. Thank you freakshow, we now have a detailed explaination other then us say, oh sasuke = Douche bag, asshole

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    Pow you just pwned him





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    The thing with Sasuke is that all the crap he's been through with the exception of the Uchiha massacre is that he bring all the crap on himself...

    1. Doesn't learn to let things go, keeps living in the past.
    2. His arrogant attitude thinking the Uchiha are the best, and thinking nobody can beat them underestimating his opponents.
    3. His Revenge thing , killed Itachi his revenge was met, wht does he do next, looks for another person to focus his revenge intent on.
    4. Need to get over the anger part in the 5 stages of Grief...

    Overall he's a emo ass douche..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Death View Post
    The thing with Sasuke is that all the crap he's been through with the exception of the Uchiha massacre is that he bring all the crap on himself...

    1. Doesn't learn to let things go, keeps living in the past.
    2. His arrogant attitude thinking the Uchiha are the best, and thinking nobody can beat them underestimating his opponents.
    3. His Revenge thing , killed Itachi his revenge was met, wht does he do next, looks for another person to focus his revenge intent on.
    4. Need to get over the anger part in the 5 stages of Grief...

    Overall he's a emo ass douche..
    This has some truth to it its the same with Orochimaru they both end up making alot of enemies everywhere they go.

    However addressing the anger thing this fits the Archtype that Sauske is suppose to repesent just like Vegita from DBZ.

    Here watch this to explain : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxn1y8d5KtA


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    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    This has some truth to it its the same with Orochimaru they both end up making alot of enemies everywhere they go.

    However addressing the anger thing this fits the Archtype that Sauske is suppose to repesent just like Vegita from DBZ.

    Here watch this to explain : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxn1y8d5KtA
    Yeah your right but atleast Vegita could back it up if he had to, plus once he got his revenge onFreeza he didn't go looking for another person...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perverted Pirate View Post
    Did you just argue with yourself? Seriously? o.O

    I agree - Sasuke is pretty meh, the only interesting thing about him is his cool looking MS. Oh and as you said Oro called the 3rd sensei, maybe he done it in a mocking way?
    No, it was clear his body got weak, and he could see Sasuke betraying him, obviously.
    And no he didn't do it in a mocking way.. He showed his respect and he mocked him later on as the fight started...



    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    What I'm Saying is that Sarutobi trained and cared for Orochimaru as a person and tried to instil the will of fire in him he wasnt just using him to get his abilities. Kakashi did the same for Sasuke that makes him his equivelent. Ororchimaru was just using Sasuke he cared nothing for him.
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    This is not about how you get used, this is about how you repay someone after you get what you want. Sasuke willingly came to Orochimaru seeking power. Sasuke got what he wanted. Ive seen countless movies where someone gets trained while used for evil plans and later on when their student attempts to escape and try kill their master they show certain respect for their knowledge, they don't prepare speeches and all that...

    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post

    - Orochimaru knew Sasuke was gonna turn on him
    Spoiler!

    Well, yea.. Repeating what I said and using it against me is pointless..


    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    - Nonsense Orochimaru was a sick puppy who proved him self too warped to be Hokage. He was doing naughty things long before Sarutobi caught him, its just that he was more carefull in hiding it. Afterwards he got sloppy and eventually drew attention to himself.
    [/B]
    That is invalid. Unless you have manga proof of course...
    If not stop making up stuff, just because he was dark natured doesn't mean he did things that were forbidden from the village or "evil" things.

    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    - The speech was fitting there is no need to be polite to someone who is just using you as a tool. What happened to Orochimaru was Karma how many people has he used as tools with no regard for thier lives.
    Again, you're turning this issue into something els. First you say he saw it coming then you say Karma? Please don't get hypocritical on me now...


    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    -When Kimmaro died his most loyal diehard subject he said he doesnt care about Kimmaro anymore

    - the 2 sound Gennin who he killed and used for Edo tensei

    - The countless others he uses as toys and experiments , why should Sasuke give a damn about Orochimaru . The things you do to others will eventually come back to you. He wanted to use Sasuke as a tool and he ended up becoming Sasuke's tool its called Karma.[/B]
    Ops too late.... Know what you're saying. When you allow people to cut you up doesn't make it Karma. Oro was using Sasuke even at that moment.
    Only thing that went wrong is the sharingan reverse,...


    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    [Kishi is using a common theme seen in many stories where thier is a close relationship between the main charcter and one of the primary villans. Like in Star wars Luke and Vader being father and son or Metal Gear Snake being gentically related to Big Boss , Liquid , Solidious , or in Trigun Vash's brother Knives , or in X men Proffessor Xaiver being old friends with Magneto.

    - The thing is these realtionships are always explained in narration or flashbacks latter on in the story you never see it form the begining. Naruto is different you get to see how the rivals became close then why they seperated and walked thier diffrent paths.

    - Having one of the villans closely releated to the main charcter adds more tension and drama. Its easy to hate someone who is just a villan but someone who was once considered a close friend adds another dynamic to the situation. This is what I meant
    I could see the star wars coming..

    Well, it certainly adds more tension but the point stands...
    Kishi can mangae his writings, he just gave Sasuke that path.
    So that the slap with get jharder afterwards.. Because Kabuto is after him now...

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    Pow you just pwned him
    Sure lol...

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