Quote Originally Posted by S-ClassNinja_Rich View Post
Orochimaru didnt beat the 3rd Hokage if you remember he gave his life up to seal Orochimaru soul, but only had enough strenght to seal his arms, plus the first and second Hokages did most of the work for Orochimaru as far as battling the 3rd Hokage.
Yeah but they were his techniques so they count. Orochimaru forced him into that situation. It's like when Sasuke forced Deidara to blow up. Sure, he didn't actually kill him but he still forced him into that situation and made him blow up.