ok remember when Ma and Pa got mad at jiraiya for summoning them to use sage mode and then said he should learn how to use it without them
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...6/page001.html

well here is my problem with it, apparently even if sage mode is mastered the user must still use pa and/or ma or allies to use it in battle but just ma and or pa to use it effectively in battle.

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and it seems like in order to use sage mode for extended periods of time in battle he needs a frog sage there to continuously draw natural energy while he fights anyway so really there is no way to use sage mode in battle without them unless its activated before battle so really they got mad at jiraiya for no reason

(again i was bored)