Your not getting the point here matety. I'm not saying the Quake ability isn't awesome, it is. But the context your using it in is wrong. Your using it's AOE ability to say that it's near matchless. I'm saying just because it's got a huge AOE, enough to tilt an island, doesn't mean shit in a straight 1v1 battle. A better example would be Akainu and his Magma fruit. He can't shake a whole island, nor can he sink one. But notice how through much of his fight against WB, they fought equally.
Oh, and don't forget that the argument I made was Boa wasn't as weak as you made her out to be. I never said BB was weak, although I doubt his as strong as your making him out to be currently. 2 DF basically means that if he falls in the ocean, he sinks twice as fast, and becomes weaker than normal when bounded by kairoseki. Don't forget that some of the strongest fighters in OP aren't even DF users (Rayleigh, Shanks, Garp etc).
Dude, whats with you and wanting to watch Boa fuck Luffy? OP ain't a hentai, lolz.Actually its very simple if a shounen character get seriously wounded or scratched he definitely shows it in some way. Either barely able to stand up, or touching the wounded place, or having a suitable expression on his face before returning to his typical mimic art. Even whitebeard showed a cero expression in his eyes while being stabbed. Smoker not only didnt show any sign of pain(except the oof!) he even tried to continue attacking ruffy and ignoring Boa once again. U seriously believe her kick did any significant damage?. I am alsio pretty sure it was her near strongest attack. It served the purpose to protect ruffy.
Quote:"I wont let u live I have never felt this angry in all my life"
Accept it or not this is all she can do. She basically serves the sole purpose of the protagonists fuckbody to give birth to the next shounen hero. This charaterizes her more than the shikibukai title.
Back on topic. Did you see how Jaws ramed into Aokiji, and he only had a bit of blood coming from his mouth? And that was because he was elbowed in the face. Compare a kick in the back and an elbow in the face, what would hurt more? All Aokiji got out of that was a bit of blood from his lip. What makes you think Smoker should have been taken down in one hit? Don't forget that his pretty much the opposition of Luffy in the marines, much like Garp was to Roger. His improved as much as Luffy has in the time they've been chasing. Getting stabbed versus getting hit? Dude, have you been stabbed before (prob not since yoru here). Why do people who are stabbed got straight into hospital and sometimes intensive care? Why is it that people to go brawling on the streets or boxing and such, they go home with some brusies and that's it?
Fact is Boa > Smoker. Considering Smokers speed, he could have caught up to Luffy if Boa let him through. But he didn't, cos he couldn't, that says it all. Unlike with Jimbei, Marco and Vista together failed to stop Akainu from pressing forward.
And her strongest attack? She might have been kicking with all her strength, but you reckon a normal kick is her strongest attack?
Sigh, what are you even trying to say man? WB was 72. Like Rayleigh, they're both in their Grandpa ages now. No shit their strength is going backwards. Shanks, BB, Dragon, the warlords etc, their all at their peak currently (between 30 to about 50?). But their body hasn't started deteriorating yet, there's no reason for them not to be able to improve, although they prob would have learnt all they can by now. Comparing Kuma to Luffy? Dude, if anything, Kuma's age and Shanks age is about the same. Did you see Kuma when Dragon saved Sabo? Was about the same time when Shanks gave his hat to Luffy. About the same age. What makes you think Dragon's strength is deteriorating, while Kuma's strength is growing? Nothing to suggest that Kuma is younger than Dragon. Just because Dragon is the captain doesn't mean anything, look at the rest of the SH crew, how do they compare with Luffy?By ur logic Whitebeard should be super sajajin during the marine HQ fight. Fact is he was even weaker than in the past. The same applies for dragon and shanks. They are just humans = after reaching a certain age they wont get stronger so I not only assume but I am nearly sure neither dragon nor shanks leveled up. Their era is already over so there is no point to make them stronger.
Their power level like Whitebeards reached its climax many years ago.
How else do u expect ruffy to surpass them if they continuously level up? Kuma is supposed to be a threat for ruffy (like the other undefeated warlords)so he had probably already received upgrades after returning to vegapunk to keep the exitement of the series. I pretty much doubt they didnt repair him+that all his powers are revealed.
During the war he only played a minor role so the author didnt bother to show a truly detailed and convincing kuma fight. Furthermore in the following picture he stood up like it was nothing so I doubt Iva did anything besides pushing him around. Sending a character flying in one piece doesnt mean to damage the character even in the slightest (except in case of fodder marines, pirates).
Shanks didn't level up? So when he gave his hat to Luffy he was at his prime was he? Already a Yonkou perhaps? Then explain to me why, even though his lost an arm, his position as a Yonkou wasn't lost? As we've seen, there are plenty of people after that position (including super nova's like Drake and other Yonkou's), losing an arm would have lowered his battle capability dramatically. We've seen him single handily match WB's swing, if he was able to do that with one arm, and he hasn't improved since, god, how strong was shanks with 2 arms then? Why was he under Roger then?
It was before Ace and BB's fight. Shanks was warning WB, that Ace wasn't strong enough.Could u give me a hint around which chapter this happened I cant comment on that without having read them\read them once again.
Yeah, the Engrish your using. Try using full stops. This sentence can either be:1st I never claimed that u havent read properly(or this is fault of my fantastic english abilities).
"I never claimed that. You haven't read it properly." Of which I'll argue I have. or
"I never claimed that you havent' read it properly." Of which means I have read it properly, and I don't get your point?
Indeed a Machine can be smart. But don't forget that they were designed and programmed by humans. If a human isn't that smart to begin with, how did they come up with an algorithm to make the machine that smart? You obviously haven't tried programming before, that I'm sure of. Next would be Kuma, his advantage over the other pasifista's would be that his got a DF ability. His body is exactly the same as the others otherwise, I mean he was constructed before the others. The only difference is that his AI program was put in him after the other PX's. So it most likely is more advanced than the others. But that doesn't really say much does it. How smart were the other PX's? Remember Law himself said "Do you really think all a Shichibukai can do is shoot lazers?" Just because a 5 year old is smarter and a 3 year old, doesn't make the 5 year old very smart.2nd A machine can exceed human meantal capabilities. Have u ever played chess, tick tack toe, against a "perfect computer"? They seem kinda untouchable if programmed correctly. In a shounen with science fiction elements this principle can also apply for battle situation. Creating such programmes, which take all possible options into consideration is a hellish work but possible. Kuma is vegapunks greatest investion. Do u seriously believe he would allow a regular pacifista to be stronger or more intelligent?
Of course ruffy will defeat him if he has too, since he as the protagonist ruffy gets support from this trashy shounen element which grants him the ability to defeat every guy in OP universe ignoring human logic. (see naruto, see sasuke)
Hmmm, do you really think that? Mihawk and Shanks are alive to this day after sparing with WB in his prime. They know the strengths and weaknesses of the Quake fruit and how to deal with it. Likewise, neither of them are DF users, so the main advantage of the Darkness fruit doesn't really affect them. With that now known, and BB's inherent weakness in straight combat, do you seriously think his just going to pawn everyone? If he was that strong, then the Yonkou shouldn't exist, and yet we know, Big Mam is still there. And a Kuma who even Moria wasn't afraid of, you think that he is equal to Mihawk and Shanks? Please, if Zoro could cut a PX like swise cheese, then Mihawk would do it easier.In short my humble opinion. BB is strongest being in op(contradictory to my previous post i know)
The whole rest(except boa and moria who portray the very bottom line) is balanced, while not being stronger kuma is not weaker than mihafk or shanks. I dont care if I am the only one in this community representing this opinion and I really hope this wall of text will entertain u.
Oh and thanks for the wall of text.
Lolz, dw. Just leave it to me.





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