Sasuke did not use Tsukuyomi!

[master.roly]

i agree with greed-sama. it seems more like some kind of MS genjutsu but not Tsukuyomi. besides, when he performed it on the 8tails he wasnt in the genjutsu like it normally is with Tsukuyomi, it seemed more like a binding genjutsu.

[master.roly]

I think he was trapped in Tsukuyomi however I do not think he broke out of it for the reasons Killer bee said.

- I too have pointed out the fact that Kakashi clearly stated to Chiyo that Tsukuyomi is not like normal Genjutsu that there is no canceling the effects.

- The real reason he was able to break out of it is simply because Sasuke lost eye contact.

- If you notice Killer bee was in mid flight when Sasuke activated MS
so it was more gravity and motion that broke it.

- Normally Tsukuyomi is activated and used on a non moving target to maximize effectiveness.

- You remember even Kakashi had a hard time using his MS justu on a moving target and could not use it effectivly.


Killer Bee may have believed he broke out on his own but in reality it would make more sense that Sasuke only had a few seconds to apply it then broke eye contact as Killer bee flew past him.

good theory, could be.

[Afro Thunda]

If it weren't Tsukiyomi that Sasuke used, there would have been no reason for him to use one eye to do the genjutsu.

[master.roly]

If it weren't Tsukiyomi that Sasuke used, there would have been no reason for him to use one eye to do the genjutsu.

like i said, i do think it's an MS technique, just not Tsukuyomi.

[Greed-sama]

I think he was trapped in Tsukuyomi however I do not think he broke out of it for the reasons Killer bee said.

- I too have pointed out the fact that Kakashi clearly stated to Chiyo that Tsukuyomi is not like normal Genjutsu that there is no canceling the effects.

- The real reason he was able to break out of it is simply because Sasuke lost eye contact.

- If you notice Killer bee was in mid flight when Sasuke activated MS
so it was more gravity and motion that broke it.

- Normally Tsukuyomi is activated and used on a non moving target to maximize effectiveness.

- You remember even Kakashi had a hard time using his MS justu on a moving target and could not use it effectivly.


Killer Bee may have believed he broke out on his own but in reality it would make more sense that Sasuke only had a few seconds to apply it then broke eye contact as Killer bee flew past him.

That makes a lot of sense, but remember Tsukuyomi lasts less than a second in the real world, Itachi was talking to Kakashi and before he even finished his sentence Kakashi felt the full effects.

[thorofasgard13]

I think he was trapped in Tsukuyomi however I do not think he broke out of it for the reasons Killer bee said.

- I too have pointed out the fact that Kakashi clearly stated to Chiyo that Tsukuyomi is not like normal Genjutsu that there is no canceling the effects.

- The real reason he was able to break out of it is simply because Sasuke lost eye contact.

- If you notice Killer bee was in mid flight when Sasuke activated MS
so it was more gravity and motion that broke it.

- Normally Tsukuyomi is activated and used on a non moving target to maximize effectiveness.

- You remember even Kakashi had a hard time using his MS justu on a moving target and could not use it effectivly.


Killer Bee may have believed he broke out on his own but in reality it would make more sense that Sasuke only had a few seconds to apply it then broke eye contact as Killer bee flew past him.

Or, that trying to use a genjutsu on a fully realized (probably the most powerful we have seen) Jinchuuriki is not gonna work, no matter how powerful your genjutsu is. As a Jinchuuriki you are 2 minds in one body, if one is locked away until called it is not going to be affected by something that requires eyes to use and can instantly break out. (He gets 2 Will saves and one of them gets a really big bonus).

[Greed-sama]

Plus for one more argument every time Tsukuyomi has been used it has shown what is going on in the illusion. When it happened to Kakashi, when it happened to Sasuke, and when it happened to Sasuke AGAIN at the Itachi vs Sasuke final fight. So why would they all of a sudden not show whats going on in the illusion and just have it pretty much be like "/boom/ there it happened are you happy?"

[POW]

That makes a lot of sense, but remember Tsukuyomi lasts less than a second in the real world, Itachi was talking to Kakashi and before he even finished his sentence Kakashi felt the full effects.

Or, that trying to use a genjutsu on a fully realized (probably the most powerful we have seen) Jinchuuriki is not gonna work, no matter how powerful your genjutsu is. As a Jinchuuriki you are 2 minds in one body, if one is locked away until called it is not going to be affected by something that requires eyes to use and can instantly break out. (He gets 2 Will saves and one of them gets a really big bonus).

There is a point to what both of you are saying, however take this info into consideration.

Straight out of the New databook XD

Itachi Uchiha: Nin 5 - Tai 4.5 - Gen 5 - Int 5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 5 - Sta 2.5 - Seal 5 = 35.5

Sasuke: Nin 5 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 4 - Int 3.5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Seal 4 = 31.5

Sasuke is not as skilled at using Genjutsu as Itachi is which may also be a factor involved

[Rokudaime Sennin ™]

It was clearly Tsukuyomi. Reason we didn't see the full effects of the illusion was because it happened way too fast, and Kishi wanted the surprise factor when killerbee breaks free. Itachi used Tsukuyomi from his left eye, and Ameterasu from his right. Sasuke's case is opposite now because Ameterasu during Itachi's trap was supposed to activate soon as the eye saw Madara's sharingan, Sasuke's left eye caught glimpse of Madara's sharingan first since he was facing him that way. So then he uses Tsukuyomi on his right now, opposite of Itachi's. It would make alot more sense if he used his jutsus one by one, Tsukuyomi first, Ameterasu, then Susanoo. And I would take killerbee's words seriously, that genjutsu won't work on a jinchuriki who has full control of his bijuu. Only way that naruto can defeat Tsukuyomi is by mastering to control the kyubi. The bijuu wants to survive, soon as it sees the host caught in something that would end it's own life, it reacted instantly.

[Rasen]

There is a point to what both of you are saying, however take this info into consideration.

Straight out of the New databook XD

Itachi Uchiha: Nin 5 - Tai 4.5 - Gen 5 - Int 5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 5 - Sta 2.5 - Seal 5 = 35.5

Sasuke: Nin 5 - Tai 3.5 - Gen 4 - Int 3.5 - Str 3.5 - Spe 4.5 - Sta 3.5 - Seal 4 = 31.5

Sasuke is not as skilled at using Genjutsu as Itachi is which may also be a factor involved

just remember that the stat was before sasuke got MS