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    Senior Member Afro Thunda's Avatar
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    The drama in One Piece is completely overshadowed by the sheer amounts of comedy. If the drama doesn't precede a fight, then we aren't gonna see much drama at all. One Piece is a happy-fun time adventure with patches of drama thrown in (before fights).

    And I think you're taking the money issue much too seriously. What does Arlong care that Luffy's bounty was 5 million beri higher than what he was extorting from the village PER MONTH? What does anyone care that a sword is worth a lot less compared to someone's life........No one's gonna buy a 300 million (or even 30 mil) beri sword unless its the most kickass sword ever to grace the OP world (that isn't Mihawk's sword). The World Government doesn't have market prices for swords and whatnot in mind when they throw out bounties for people. So your monetary value issue is kinda pointless.

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    Luffy for President! Drago Musevini's Avatar
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    here's an example. you walk into a convinient store, and ask for a pack of cigarettes. the guy says: " a 100 $". you're kinda surprised, but you really want a smoke, so you pay him this 100$ and tell to choke on it.
    you're walking back home, and you see a brand new opened Mercedes dealer. you ask the guy, how much's a mercedes SLK from 08', and he tells you: "150$"... then you're like WTF?!
    this is what im talking about.
    either some things in the world of One Piece are too cheap, or other are way too expenssive.
    when you create a series, in which you chose to define ones entity with monetary value (such as oda did in op) you have to keep them balanced. ortherwise, it would be pointless. this is why things that are more valuable, should be dealed as such.
    when you put a bounty, on the most wanted criminal in the whole EB, it can not be equal to a few hundred pounds of iron, `cuz it simply denies common sense.

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    The post bounty heads by 'threat level to the WG'.

    But I imagine that the Berri amounts are near/equal to Yen amounts.

    1 Dollar = 110 yen.

    50,000 yen = 456 dollars (Double it and Nami gave zoro 1k bucks for swords practically)

    30,000,000.00 (Amount of luffy's first bounty in yen?) JPY = 273,800.90 USD

    I already forgot what we're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago Musevini View Post
    here's an example. you walk into a convinient store, and ask for a pack of cigarettes. the guy says: " a 100 $". you're kinda surprised, but you really want a smoke, so you pay him this 100$ and tell to choke on it.
    you're walking back home, and you see a brand new opened Mercedes dealer. you ask the guy, how much's a mercedes SLK from 08', and he tells you: "150$"... then you're like WTF?!
    this is what im talking about.
    either some things in the world of One Piece are too cheap, or other are way too expenssive.
    when you create a series, in which you chose to define ones entity with monetary value (such as oda did in op) you have to keep them balanced. ortherwise, it would be pointless. this is why things that are more valuable, should be dealed as such.
    when you put a bounty, on the most wanted criminal in the whole EB, it can not be equal to a few hundred pounds of iron, `cuz it simply denies common sense.
    Ok just so to clear things up East Blue is not equal to Grand line. The threat level of being the best in East blue is not even close when you sail in the Grandline much more in the New World. Now you're saying why is the baddest pirate in East Blue only cost as much as a "NICE" sword? Well because they aren't a big deal in the WG. The swords that we're talking about are very expensive because of it being rare. Your example doesn't make sense because you're comparing the same commodities while here the price of the sword is being control by the market while the price of bounty is by the WG.


    its not like im telling oda "hey, dude, do love in One piece keke?!"
    im just saying, that one piece somewhat lacks drama. all the stuff about nakama is cool, but its kinda.. worn out.
    to have a good story, you have to have drama in it. you usually achieve it, by having some1 die. however, since no1 dies in op, there can be no drama.
    there is no point in story without pple passig away.
    lucchi was defeated by luffy, so was baggy, alvida, and many others. what keeps them, from going after him?
    if everyone of them teamed up, luffy would be in serious trouble, and he'd most likely loose some of his nakama. this is what you get without enemies/friends dying.
    you may say "nah, none of his friends would have died.. no one dies in One piece".
    but then, its just more messed up.

    You don't think the life of each members of Mugiwara aren't drama? Seriously. All of their past were so bitter and painful. Like afro said, this is a happy-fun manga and killing a character whether their bad or good will not promote drama but change the mood into a more depressing story.

    when arlong first arrived at kokoyashi, he gathered about 25mill belli from all the citizens. and got the same amount each month. how can luffys bounty be only a lil` higher than a monthly pay off of a single village?
    How many lives can you compare to luffy's life? That should be the question you're suppose to be asking.

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    Senior Member Afro Thunda's Avatar
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    So the problem you have is that a person's bounty (their potential threat to the peace) shouldn't be less than or equal to an object? It actually sounds like you're taking a humanitarian approach to this since, to me, what you're getting at is that a Human life should be worth way more than any material object.

    But really, bounties vs. price of an object aren't weighted the same. Bounties show how dangerous someone is. Prices for objects show how good it is. I think you may be looking into the value of the Beri too deep. And you must have missed that recent Slave auction chapter too where they had fixed prices for certain races of ppl.

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    listen, one piece is good the way it is. it doesn't need any more drama or any immature crushes and romances that other manga have because it is unique. one piece doesn't have to be like anything else because it does what it does so well, it would be ruining it if love dramas between characters were introduced. also, i think 1 berri is roughly equal to 1 yen like redpan already said. that way, prices make more sense.

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    Value of money in one piece.
    is luffy's 300mill belli a lot? everyone, who heard this number in the manga was quite amazed. even earlier, his 30min back at east blue was considered a LOT.
    but is it really?
    in logue town, when zoro wanted to buy a katana, the guy said that 1 shitty katana is 50 000 belli. (and when you look at it, a shitty katana is just a sharpened piece of iron.. so its kinda worthless.)
    luffy's bounty at that time, was 30mil and he was considered to be the most dangerous person in the whole EB. it was satted to be the record amount, for east blue.
    so, if some1 catched luffy, and sold him ti marines, he'd got 30mill belli. and with that 30mill, he could buy... 600 worthless katanas. or one good katana (it was said, that zoro's wadou was about 22 mil)
    so, if you kill the most dangerous guy in the whole ocean, you could buy yourself a nice katana... is it just me, or does this seem kinda stupid?
    even when luffys bounty is 300mill, you could buy .. 13 nice katanas... thats nearly enought, for a squad. for the head, of a guy, who beat 2 shichibukais, waged war on the WG, destroyed CP9 you could get just .. 13 nice swords?! there's got to be something wrong with that.
    The bounty of Krieg and Arlong : 17&20mB. So when Luffy beat them, he just have 30mB. It cant too high. Why the bounty is so low ? Because most of strong pirates in Easr Blue go to Grand line. And you see what Arlong did, he just put some island under his control and take money, it's nomal.
    And you can raise your bounty quickly when you beat the high one but if you dont have worth opponent, it 'll stop at that bounty .


    also, the thing with Arlong. Nami had to gather 100mill belli, to buy kokoyashi vill. but, each month, just from kokoyashi got about 25mill belli.
    why would he sell a village, when he could get this amout in just 4 short months? it doesnt make any sense.
    it might've been just an excuse, to make nami draw the maps. but, he could say, that he'd sell the vill for.. dunno, 1 billion belli.
    Arlong dont need money from Nami. He just set a low price for her to accept. And she work for him with all her hope for the future, not like when she is forced to do it.

    now, for a different topic. why isnt there a love motive in one piece?
    in nearly every anime series (shonen/seinen, not to mention shojo) there is love somewhere.
    naruto has a crush on sakura (and probably sasuke )
    inoue has a crush on ichigo
    Relena had a crush on heero
    athrun was in love with cagalli, and kira in lacus
    misa was totaly into Light
    .. i could go on and on, but you get the point.
    also, i dont consider sanji's.. love explosions as part of it. they're just a gague, meant to be funny, without any further consequences.
    im not saying, that in every anime i want to see pple falling in love with each other but.. one piece is getting kinda.. too straight-forward.
    since ep 1 its all about "ill protect my nakama" and "become something".
    i think that it lacks a fresh, new development.
    it may still be introduced later on, but...
    I think Oda sensei is one of the best mangaka who write about friendship. And it's enough for us. And you can read chap 485, when Zoro sacrifice himself to protect Luffy.
    In OP has no scheme or big stragety, it has some secret (blank century) but it's not too important. It's very clear and simple world

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