I'm with you Fresh!
manga, but now I took my time after acishivers pointed it.
Last edited by Alterno; 07-30-2007 at 02:56 AM.
i think he got out of dimention due to the fact that he killed oro.. but i could be wrong.
Yondaime <3 Naruto
Last edited by Alterno; 07-30-2007 at 03:09 AM.
Ok. Maybe calling this guy an idiot wasn't called for, but it seems you may have also got some things twisted the wrong way. I wasn't challenging his theories, I was trying to clear up and misinterpretations of the events that took place in the manga. I just restated how Sasuke escaped Manda, and I said he did NOT use the Mangekyo Sharingan since he has NOT obtained it yet. Other then my last paragraph, what I said wasn't a theory. These are events that took place in the manga. Also, I don't see how I was dictating right and wrong if its fact that this happened here or there. Sasuke summoned Manda, used a genjutsu to control him, climbed inside Manda and used a jutsu to escape, but not without substaining damage from Deidara. Suigetsu then summoned Manda back to where everyone was supposed to meet. So most of what you said didn't even apply to me.
@Alterno (part 1)
If you read what I said, I never mentioned your theory about the sharingan. I was just trying to make it clear that Sasuke does NOT have Mangekyo Sharingan. I did misread what you said, but its not all my fault since you kinda of worded it where that anyone could get confused. Similar to how people may have misinterpreted Tobi when he talked about Uchiha Madara's power.
Also, you said Sasuke imprisoned Orochimaru in Sasuke's OWN created dimension? Not quite. Originally it was Orochimaru's dimension (if you read the Chapter pages on page 2 of this thread you'll see clearly Orochimaru state "This is my dimension".) Sasuke just overpowered Oro with his sharingan. But not saying you are wrong about Sasuke being able to warp dimensions, just that the example you gave was incorrect.
My theory on how to obtain the mangekyo sharingan:
I think the more you kill the greater or the more power the sharingan gets. I think Orochimaru may have been the only person Sasuke killed and it looked like after the battle his Sharingan changed a bit. If you notice when Sasuke was training and defeated who ever the group of people were that he fought, Orochimaru stated that Sasuke didn't kill anyone "again". Itachi had killed alot including his own family and clan. Kakashi, also, has killed a few unknown shinobi down the road. If my theory is even close it would explain why Itachi and Kakashi's (mangekyo)sharingan is so developed.
My thoughts on Tobi and Shisui rumors:
Umm.. Shisui can't even be on the ballet in a vote for "Who do you think Tobi is?" He face, head, body, body features were never shown. All that is known is his achievements when he was alive and how he died. I'm 99.9% sure that Uchiha Shisui is NOT Tobi (I left 0.01% because not everything is black and white in manga.) I mean, Obito is the best pick. It's over 50% chance that Tobi is indeed Obito. We could look at the minor details like Tobi appearance, personality, and how his name is pretty damn close to Obito if you scramble the letters (or do tobi-tobi-tobitobitobitobitobitobitobit-obito-obito it Tobi=Obito; LOL jk). If you read into this a little more and look at the clues and facts that you already know questions like: Who are the only known sharingan users and naruto, and who dead/alive could Tobi possibly be? Obito would be one of the first to come to mind. It wasnt really said Obito's right side was crushed under the rocks. Just they didnt have the time to did him out since he was pretty much buried. Obito could have amnesia or a split personality or the author could have took a little plot out of yu Yu Hakusho and made Obito a direct decendant of Uchiha Madara,(who if kishimoto follows the legend and makes Madara a half demon,) it would mean Obito has the demon gene in him. That gene could have awakened the demon side or personality within Obito who is now trying return Madara's power to what it once was.
***Note: I wasn't planning on typing this much just got into my thoughts and theories for a moment.***