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    Urahara is evil!

    Some people might agree with me and some wont but just look at the evidence:

    1. He implanted the Hougyoku in Rukia even though he as a previous Captain should have known she would be brought back to Soul Society. And why would he risk that when he had managed to hide it in the real world for all this time.

    2. a) If Urahara hadnt sent Ichigo to Soul Society Rukias execution would have gone through, revealing that the Hougyoku was buried within her soul. And because Ichigo and friends hadnt caused such a commotion the execution would have been witnessed by all the captains preventing Aizen from sneaking away like he did.

    2. b) Rukias Execution would have been prevented by Kyōraku and Ukitake but they would probably be killed in the process and Rukia would be captured again or killed.

    3 The reason Orihime could be captured was because Urahara implied she was useless and that led her to train with Rukia in Soul Society. And if she hadnt been traveling between worlds Ulquiorra would not have been able to capture here that easy. Bleach 233 page 18 | One Manga

    I do not think that Urahara is working with Aizen but rather letting Aizen think that he is pulling all the strings when in reality Urahara is the true puppet master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerko View Post
    Some people might agree with me and some wont but just look at the evidence:

    1. He implanted the Hougyoku in Rukia even though he as a previous Captain should have known she would be brought back to Soul Society. And why would he risk that when he had managed to hide it in the real world for all this time.

    2. a) If Urahara hadnt sent Ichigo to Soul Society Rukias execution would have gone through, revealing that the Hougyoku was buried within her soul. And because Ichigo and friends hadnt caused such a commotion the execution would have been witnessed by all the captains preventing Aizen from sneaking away like he did.

    2. b) Rukias Execution would have been prevented by Kyōraku and Ukitake but they would probably be killed in the process and Rukia would be captured again or killed.

    3 The reason Orihime could be captured was because Urahara implied she was useless and that led her to train with Rukia in Soul Society. And if she hadnt been traveling between worlds Ulquiorra would not have been able to capture here that easy. Bleach 233 page 18 | One Manga

    I do not think that Urahara is working with Aizen but rather letting Aizen think that he is pulling all the strings when in reality Urahara is the true puppet master.

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    1) His plan failed ever since they found Rukia, his goal was to make her go "missing" until the body became a mere human soul.

    2) Knowing that Ichigo wanted to save Rukia, he trained him and even helped him sending Yoruichi with the group. Also, how is he suppose to know that two captain of the gotei 13 were going to aid poor Rukia Chan?

    3) He told Orihime that she was useless in the battle field, because he thought Aizen was aware of her abilities. She staying somewhere safe was probably his goal. It sucks that Orihime and Rukia didn't listen to him, thus making Orihime's "capture" possible

    Urahara was well aware that his invention was too dangerous and he even tried to destroy it (although he wasn't able to). That's why he even left soul society. In my opinion he aint no evil... he just has shitty luck that's all

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    Some of your "evidence" aren't exactly spot on. 2.a for example. Aizen already had a plan we did not get a chance to know for acquiring the hogyoukou after Rukia's excecution. Remember, he WAS central 46 and central 46 was the one that planned the execution. Aizen's a lot more intricate than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabe87 View Post
    1) His plan failed ever since they found Rukia, his goal was to make her go "missing" until the body became a mere human soul.

    2) Knowing that Ichigo wanted to save Rukia, he trained him and even helped him sending Yoruichi with the group. Also, how is he suppose to know that two captain of the gotei 13 were going to aid poor Rukia Chan?

    3) He told Orihime that she was useless in the battle field, because he thought Aizen was aware of her abilities. She staying somewhere safe was probably his goal. It sucks that Orihime and Rukia didn't listen to him, thus making Orihime's "capture" possible

    Urahara was well aware that his invention was too dangerous and he even tried to destroy it (although he wasn't able to). That's why he even left soul society. In my opinion he aint no evil... he just has shitty luck that's all
    1. If his plan really was for Rukia to go missing i think he at least should have persuaded Rukia to live at another location. She lost her powers at Ichigos house so its not really a good location to hide if she just stays at her last known location is it?

    2. He couldnt have known, the "2 b" thing i just put in to show that "2 a"would have happened anyway.

    3.Are you serious? Give me one example of a manga character who do not take it as a challenge to get stronger when someone tells them that they are useless. But just for fun i will prove my point further here:
    Bleach 227 page 14 | One Manga

    Bleach 227 page 15 | One Manga

    He tells Orihime that the 4th squadron is better suited because they are trained for battle unlike her. It could have been a coincidence that she ran into Rukia afterwards but i dont believe in coincidences. I know its not nearly enough to be called real evidence, but do anyone honestly believe that Urahara made two mistakes in a row that just happened to help Aizen closer to his final goal?

    Quote Originally Posted by hirakoshinji View Post
    Some of your "evidence" aren't exactly spot on. 2.a for example. Aizen already had a plan we did not get a chance to know for acquiring the hogyoukou after Rukia's excecution. Remember, he WAS central 46 and central 46 was the one that planned the execution. Aizen's a lot more intricate than you think.
    I can admit that Aizen probably would have made it without Uraharas help but would it have gone as smoothly as it did?
    Urahara created the hougyoku and in doing so managed to do something Aizen hadnt even come close to. So if Aizen really is so intelligent then what is Urahara?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerko View Post
    1. If his plan really was for Rukia to go missing i think he at least should have persuaded Rukia to live at another location. She lost her powers at Ichigos house so its not really a good location to hide if she just stays at her last known location is it?

    2. He couldnt have known, the "2 b" thing i just put in to show that "2 a"would have happened anyway.

    3.Are you serious? Give me one example of a manga character who do not take it as a challenge to get stronger when someone tells them that they are useless. But just for fun i will prove my point further here:
    Bleach 227 page 14 | One Manga

    Bleach 227 page 15 | One Manga

    He tells Orihime that the 4th squadron is better suited because they are trained for battle unlike her. It could have been a coincidence that she ran into Rukia afterwards but i dont believe in coincidences. I know its not nearly enough to be called real evidence, but do anyone honestly believe that Urahara made two mistakes in a row that just happened to help Aizen closer to his final goal?



    I can admit that Aizen probably would have made it without Uraharas help but would it have gone as smoothly as it did?
    Urahara created the hougyoku and in doing so managed to do something Aizen hadnt even come close to. So if Aizen really is so intelligent then what is Urahara?
    it even says that somewhere in the manga that he was hoping for her to go into a mere human. I think Aizen said it.

    2. ....Yes he did know that Ichigo wanted to save Rukia...that part was extremely obvious.....

    3. It doesn't matter...Urahara thought that it would have crushed Orihime's hopes of helping in the battle therefore staying put...but he was wrong.


    I agree with you saying that that evidence of yours isn't real evidence, in fact, it more helps that he's a good guy and will remain good.

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    interesting theory zerko...would be a nice twist to see what u've said play out in the series.

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    I can understand your points Zerko... Uruhara is a bit fishy
    And one thing that bugged me a little in the 'filler' between the SS arc and Bount.
    He had very timely created three Bount sensitive mod souls...
    But I hope he won't go badass on us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by taikida View Post
    I can understand your points Zerko... Uruhara is a bit fishy
    And one thing that bugged me a little in the 'filler' between the SS arc and Bount.
    He had very timely created three Bount sensitive mod souls...
    But I hope he won't go badass on us...
    Uruhara was the head of the Science Division. That would kinda fall under his job description to be prepared for various enemy attacks..........
    To me it seems like he is a "less-proactive-Aizen." He is not with SS but has his own agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taikida View Post
    I can understand your points Zerko... Uruhara is a bit fishy
    And one thing that bugged me a little in the 'filler' between the SS arc and Bount.
    He had very timely created three Bount sensitive mod souls...
    But I hope he won't go badass on us...
    thing is, Urahara always HAVE been fishy. But everytime he just assholes the good guys a little bit, well kind of a lot but yeah, he does know what he did wrong. It would be kind of weird if he just went bad on us but also quite shocking. Hope this does not happen though, he's one of the best characters.

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