Naruto 597 Spoiler Discussion

[Jaiden]

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[Zero]

Oh well, at least one part is confirmed, but what about the other one ?

The cover suggests a new Rasengan, or is it only me ;p ?

[Jaiden]

@Zero it's all confirmed.

[Zero]

@Zero it's all confirmed.

No, I wasn't talking about the spoiler itself, but about Tobi . What I meant is that it was finally confirmed that he posses Obito's sharingan and that a near death experience awakens MS (or so it seems). By the other one, I was wondering if he IS Obito ?

[Jaiden]

No, I wasn't talking about the spoiler itself, but about Tobi . What I meant is that it was finally confirmed that he posses Obito's sharingan and that a near death experience awakens MS (or so it seems). By the other one, I was wondering if he IS Obito ?

OH. Well to me am thinking it's probably Obito. And giving your near death experience awaken his MS theory, I wouldn't mind Kishi doing pulling something that.

[Zero Phoenix]

What an awful chapter. It's good to see that Kishimoto continues to outdo himself as each new release is worse than the last.

[almara]

No, I wasn't talking about the spoiler itself, but about Tobi . What I meant is that it was finally confirmed that he posses Obito's sharingan and that a near death experience awakens MS (or so it seems). By the other one, I was wondering if he IS Obito ?

it has never been a near death experience that unlocked MS, but rather the death of some1 close to you, unless ofc you're kakashi and unlocks it mysteriously.

[Zero]

it has never been a near death experience that unlocked MS, but rather the death of some1 close to you, unless ofc you're kakashi and unlocks it mysteriously.

Tobi is seemingly using an MS technique as well and one of the things we know about transplanted Sharingans, is that if it was an MS before, then after transplantation to a person that isn't closely related, the MS will still be usable which the MS ability it possessed (Danzou and the Crow as an example). On the other hand, if both, the donor and the recipient had an MS and are closely related, we know that the blood/soul/something of the recipient will override the donor's techniques, in turn strengthening the recipient's original ones (as shown by Sasuke's Kagutsuchi being power upped and Sasuke being unable to perform Itachi's Tsukuyomi).

Currently we don't know if Kakashi's or even Tobi's case is the same.


I know it's a little crazy, but if Tobi is Obito, then the Black Zetsu is Rin, hahaha (Crazy Kakashi, I expect it to be a disappointment as his Rampage). After all, Tobi and Zetsu knew each other for a long long time, unless he is Izuna which still would have been awesome.

After reading the spoilers, I can understand why (if he is) Obito would want to help Madara. I even think that Madara used the same trick, that Tobi used to gain Sasuke's cooperation. Perhaps Obito awakened only later on, after a few months or so, awakening only to hear that his loved one, is dead and that Kakashi hasn't fulfilled his promise.



BTW. Tobi's costumes :

[Arbitrary]

Cover looks shitty.

[Yoru]

Wow..i dunno if it's possible for tobi to be obito, but on the other hand, tobi is pretty mad about kakashi not fulfilling his promises and such. I remember kakashi was entrusted with rin by obito, so if kakshi let her die that means he didn't fulfill his promise to Obito. Obito would have the right to be mad at him, but it would be a little bit unjust...maybe Kakashi couldn't save rin because he was too weak...in that case you can't blame him cuz he did all he could. But if madara comes to mess with your weaknesses, then it's over...

And now that i think of it. it would make sense for Tobi to be Obito. Imagine a scenario like this: Obito awakens with only one eye and learns that rin is dead. She was obito's loved one, possibly the closest. the loss of the dearest person in the world awakens MS. it would make sense...