Shanks can't be Ace's dad, that's 4 sure cu'z Shanks is 37 and Ace is 20(u do the math)? unless Shanks was a pimp when he was younger.
I also have a feeling that if Ace and Luffy are related they are only half brothers or cousins because of the last name. I don't think they have the same father because of the different last names. It is also possible that they are cousins that consider each other brothers, that would explain the falling asleep thing. Ace could just be Luffy's aunts son (Garps daughter) that way his last name would be different and that would explain Garp mentioning training Ace too.
Just thought of something that is really like grasping at straws, but Ace could have been born or brought to that village where Luffy was by his mother. then Shanks could have been going to visit him when Garp asked him to keep an eye on Luffy too. If that were true maybe Shanks never told Ace he was his father and wanted to stay out of his life, so Garp's request could have been his cover for wanting to see Ace without interfering with his life.
but then again more than likely Ace and Shanks aren't related and this whole theory is shite.
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shanks2.JPG <===== You telling me you dont see the resemblance?
uh to the guy above me
1. True D. is a middle name shared by alot of characters in One Piece like as you said Jaguar D. Saul the giant. However, its pretty obvious Oda is setting it up as something big and most definitely related in some way to Gol D. Roger. Thats precisely why im saying Shanks in all likelyhood has a D. somewhere in his name.
2. And yes it is possible that Luffy and Ace are cousins but i think because its been kept so dam ambiguous, them considering each other brothers but have two distinctly different family name, i think theres more to it than that. i.e. A Shanks - Ace relationship
3. We already know Ace lived in Luffy's village and left 3 years before him. I still dont think he was born there though. And what do u mean when you say "Garp's request". I still dont understand where you stand with this your pretty much all over the place.
Check my attachments.
You're telling me you don't see the resemblance?
Serious Luffy looks much alike Roger, but Luffy is Dragon's son. What I really mean is - the resemblance proves nothing.
i have to go w/ Sirius resemblance doesn't prove anything look at Cobra and Vivi they dont look like father and daughter. Besides there are a lot of character that look alike like Tbone and the zombie that have Zoro's shadow and Luffy looks more related to Ace than Shanks!
its doubtful that shanks is ace's father.
ace is what, about 20years old? twenty years before, shanks was just a kid, along with buggy on Rogers ship.. you're telling that he was a father back then? .. not likely.
also, Ace is Luffy's brother...as u know, brothers have the same father.. so ace's father is Dragon.
Not to confuse people, but I'm against this theory. For one, I would have to go with simple genetics. Unless it skipped a generation, Ace's hair does not seem to have the same color as Shanks' (clearly) In the case that it did skip a generation, then I'll move onto my next point. Since Shanks seems to have known Luffy as a child, it would make sense that he also knew Ace, since they were brothers. Therefore, he cares about Ace just like he cares about Luffy, which is the reason as to why he was talking to Whitebeard about Ace's safety. As to whether Luffy and Ace are biological brothers, that could be debated, but it can also be supported by the fact that the family (Luffy, Ace, Garp) have similar mannerisms, such as the aforementioned narcolepsy, which Shanks does not seem to have by the way. So I am still not convinced that Shanks could be related to either Luffy or Ace.
actually Shanks is not just concerned w/ Ace's safety. theres still another reason He may predicted that the fight between BB and Ace will lead to something big like war between WG and Pirates.
Uh i dont get it, why would 2 pirates (Ace and Blackbeard) fighting each other (as they do) destabilise the world...Blackbeard wasnt a Shickibukai yet and im pretty sure its only because of this fight he becomes a Shickibukai. And you know the WG and the pirates have been at war since the start...but its not like they're all gonna band together or anything...its just not their way. This fight doesnt mean anything like that. Thats why im saying Shank's concern is for Ace alone. And ppl still seem to be a bit confused at what im getting at. I think Ace and Luffy arent brothers. I think Luffy's dad is most definitely Dragon. And i think Shanks is Ace's dad.
this is mostly directed at Drago Musevini when he said
"Ace is Luffy's brother...as u know, brothers have the same father.. so ace's father is Dragon"
And to Lord_Sirius, those pics dont even resemble each other that much, its only the smile thats similar - nothing else. And u pulled those pics from the anime, how often have we seen Luffy smile like that in the actual manga.
Oh and jupzter, Tbone and Zoro's shadow body may look alike but then again Tbone looked like a Zombie while Zoro's shadow body was a zombie. Its like saying a guy dressed in a gorilla suit looks like a real gorilla.
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