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    Quote Originally Posted by blueiris385 View Post
    I was wondering. Until someone unleashed the MS no sharingan user could have been aware of it. Someone basically stumbled upon it. Same with EMS really, someone was going blind and took someone else's MS and stumbled upon the EMS.
    So there could even be another level of the sharingan.

    But here is my question. Do you think there could be another level to the Byakugan.
    I think its doubtful that we'll see it because the only users were familiar with are Neji and Hinata and they aren't real players in the series. But do you think there is another level and if so what abilities could it have.
    Does byakugan have another level? No, because they're not full of hatred, and don't feel the need to gain strength through vengeful means.

    Does the EMS have another level? Of course, it's called the rinnegan.
    Seriously. In fact EMS higher level would be the elder brother's unknown doujutsu whose higher level would be the rinnegan.
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    The Sharingan won't ever get back to the Rinnegan or whatever eye the elder brother had. The bloodlines have thinned out too much from way back then to now. Its a separate dojutsu from the Rinnegan now. Same with the Byakugan. The elder brother's dojutsu (if it was a dojutsu) is crap anyway. The Sharingan and (maybe) Byakugan that descended from it are considered two of the three great Dojutsus. So those two are better than what the elder brother had. And doesn't Nagato awakening the Rinnegan kinda throw a wrench into the "Sharingan and/or Byakugan can evolve to the Rinnegan"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by afro thunda View Post
    The Sharingan won't ever get back to the Rinnegan or whatever eye the elder brother had. The bloodlines have thinned out too much from way back then to now. Its a separate dojutsu from the Rinnegan now. Same with the Byakugan. The elder brother's dojutsu (if it was a dojutsu) is crap anyway. The Sharingan and (maybe) Byakugan that descended from it are considered two of the three great Dojutsus. So those two are better than what the elder brother had. And doesn't Nagato awakening the Rinnegan kinda throw a wrench into the "Sharingan and/or Byakugan can evolve to the Rinnegan"?
    If Nagato would have inpregnated Konan perhaps we would have found out, unfortunately he was in a wheel chair and probably had a limp noodle. So the world may never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afro thunda View Post
    The Sharingan won't ever get back to the Rinnegan or whatever eye the elder brother had. The bloodlines have thinned out too much from way back then to now. Its a separate dojutsu from the Rinnegan now. Same with the Byakugan. The elder brother's dojutsu (if it was a dojutsu) is crap anyway. The Sharingan and (maybe) Byakugan that descended from it are considered two of the three great Dojutsus. So those two are better than what the elder brother had. And doesn't Nagato awakening the Rinnegan kinda throw a wrench into the "Sharingan and/or Byakugan can evolve to the Rinnegan"?
    Afro, I was joking, of course the sharingan can't evolve back to the rinnegan, cause rinnegan is only given by God. It was given to Rikudou at first and then to his reincarnate Nagato. No1 else can possess it. But the fact that your calling the elder brother's doujutsu crap is absurd. How can you call the first unthinned generation of the doujutsu derived from the rinnegan, crap? The sharingan and byakugan are considered the other 2 great doujutsus because the elder's brother doujutsu doesn't exist anymore in it's original form. If my theory is correct that all doujutsus including byakugan are derived from the rinnegan, then the elder brother's doujutsu which specialized in Ninjutsu like the rinnegan, now exists in it's 2 special forms, the sharingan which specializes in genjutsu, and byakugan which specializes in taijutsu. I think that the sharingan and byakugan are the thinned out specialized versions of the same doujutsu lineage from the elder brother. Here's where Mangekyou fits in, the sharingan at a cost could access the evil jutsus of the elder brother including Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Kamui & possibly 2 more. See by gaining access to those jutsus via the Mangekyou, the sharingan is evolving back to the form of the elder brother's doujutsu. I think Madara's ultimate plan might be to attain a level of sharingan as powerful as the elder brother, but he won't be the one to do it, only Sasuke will.

    Quote Originally Posted by blueiris385 View Post
    If Nagato would have inpregnated Konan perhaps we would have found out, unfortunately he was in a wheel chair and probably had a limp noodle. So the world may never know.
    The rinnegan itself isn't a bloodline, one cannot pass the rinnegan on to their kids. It is a tool from heaven, given to the chosen one. Rikudou's kids never got, and Nagato's kids would've never gotten the full rinnegan. Nagato is the reincarnation of Rikudou, only Nagato's reincarnate will have the next rinnegan. But they can pass along a half powered doujutsu birthed from the rinnegan.
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    I'd say the Sharingan is closer to the Ninjutsu aspect than to the Genjutsu aspect. Rinnegan allows its user to master all elements, Sharingan allows its user to copy any technique (that's not a Bloodline Limit). Sounds pretty similar. Rinnegan allows its user (with the help of extra bodies) to see in 'x' amount of directions. Byakugan allows its user to see long distances (Hinata: at least 10 Kilometers right now) and see through solid objects. To me, it looks like the Sharingan and the Byakugan took some base abilities of the Rinnegan and improved upon them.

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    1. I meant we'll never know what the sons doujutsu was because Nagato didn't reporduce.
    2. I think Afro means that the elder sons doujutsu is crap because they've described the 3 great doujutsu. These being Rinnegan, Byakugan, Sharingan. No one expected the Rinnegan to still be around, in fact some believe it a myth. So if the sons doujutsu is none of these and it isn't considered 1 of the 3 then its crap. No one even knows what it is or was so it couldn't be much.
    It may actually have similair attributes to the sharingan, only look slightly different. Who knows

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    Genin = Sharingan, because it's basically a tai/weapon match, so the sharingan gives a massive advantage.Chuunin = Byakugan, because it can see through c/b-rank genjutsu, I believe + the sealing chakra takes away alot of ninjutsu possiblities.Jounin = Tie, totally dependant on whether SharinganNinja has MS.Kage = Sharingan, MS/EMS + Extreme Genjutsu Mastery, this probably leaves Tai as the only "winnable" fight, and even in that the Sharingan is an obvious advantage.

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    With the new doujutsu thread, I'm closing this.

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