View Poll Results: Which is stronger?

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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendoki View Post
    This is almost as ridiculous as the 9-tails vs Pein thread.

    We haven't seen anything from the Rinnengan, other than the ability for Pein to see through all 6 bodies.
    agree...i had to vote sharingan because we can't comapre them while we don't know the full(at least most)extent of the rinengan and SHARINGAN
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    i voted rinnegan becuase by the time a mangekyou user wold find a way to counter the six bodies he would of used up to much chakra plus lets say u take out the six bodies u still would have to take out the original bodie the one with black hair the rest are just bodies controled bye him because they specialize in certian element or type of jutsus
    so seems like rinnegan does very little but i think it's kick ass to never expose ur self to any real danger and with u using mangeyou let's say 4 time considering u star off using it right away ur chakra will be all used up a thats it your as good as gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eder View Post
    i voted rinnegan becuase by the time a mangekyou user wold find a way to counter the six bodies he would of used up to much chakra plus lets say u take out the six bodies u still would have to take out the original bodie the one with black hair the rest are just bodies controled bye him because they specialize in certian element or type of jutsus
    so seems like rinnegan does very little but i think it's kick ass to never expose ur self to any real danger and with u using mangeyou let's say 4 time considering u star off using it right away ur chakra will be all used up a thats it your as good as gone
    you're making an assumption by stating the six bodies we've seen so far are being controlled by the original nagato that we've seen. there's no evidence to prove that that's true. it's not illogical for all six bodies to have a piece of nagato's soul. that's the most likely answer to who pein is at least from the information we currently have of pein.


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    you guys are forgetting about the sharingan's true purpose...

    what if its true purpose is to stop the rinnegan if it gets out of control. If this is true than the mangekyou is definitly stronger....but of course thats just a guess.

    But than again....the sharingan is said to be feared and evil by kyuubi.....a hint of its strenght...?

    Another thing, its true that Jiraiya was shocked and scared when he found out that nagato had the rinnegan, but he wasn't shocked when he faced itachi and his sharingan...why? Maybe because he didn't know of the existence of the mangekyou, as he was surprised by the use of ametatsaru (sp?) and wondered what kind of jutsu that was. Maybe the mangekyou's true power was so strong it was kept secret from the world, and even the Uchiha themselves - except for a few chosen ones.

    of course this is all speculation on my part...

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    Keep your theories in the theory forum, in the manga forum we only discuss fact. Fact is Rinnegan has the ability to control 6 bodies, sharingan can cast genjutsu and copy ninjutsu. The if Sharingan burnt away one of Pein's bodies (assuming that the technique can't be used too much) Pein still has 5 more bodies and seeing how his bodies can come back from the dead it's unlikely that Sharingan will be able to take down the Rinnegan on strength alone.

    Maybe if the Sharingan user was extremely skilled but in terms of just Rinnegan vs Sharingan Rinnegan wins. Remember, genjutsu effects a BODY's senses, not the souls so even if Pain is split between the 6 bodies genjutsu would only be able to effect one of the bodies at one specific time, assuming that the use will have to concentrate to maintain a genjutsu Pain would easily strike down a Sharingan user at this weak moment.
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    ah yes, forgot sbout that

    anyways, countering the 6 bodies shouldn't be so hard. just create shadow clones, and i think kakashi mentioned that shadow clones can use any jutsu/techinique the original user can do. so it'll be 6 set of mangekyou vs 6 set of rinnegan. in which case rinnegan would lose if caught in any of the known mangekyou doujutsu, plus if thers any unexpected attacks the sharingan can easily see and respond to it.

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    Pain got cought in Genjutsu easily with the Toad song, and it was aimed at the Summoning Body (Pain), it wont take a second for a great Genjutsu fighter to take down a Rin'nengan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hair View Post
    you guys are forgetting about the sharingan's true purpose...

    what if its true purpose is to stop the rinnegan if it gets out of control. If this is true than the mangekyou is definitly stronger....but of course thats just a guess.

    But than again....the sharingan is said to be feared and evil by kyuubi.....a hint of its strenght...?

    Another thing, its true that Jiraiya was shocked and scared when he found out that nagato had the rinnegan, but he wasn't shocked when he faced itachi and his sharingan...why? Maybe because he didn't know of the existence of the mangekyou, as he was surprised by the use of ametatsaru (sp?) and wondered what kind of jutsu that was. Maybe the mangekyou's true power was so strong it was kept secret from the world, and even the Uchiha themselves - except for a few chosen ones.

    of course this is all speculation on my part...
    i highly doubt tobi is such a generous guy that he would stop the rinnegan in order to save the world.

    the sharingan wasn't what the kyuubi feared, he said that sasuke's chakra was more sinister than his. i'm tired of people always missing this simple fact.



    jiraiya was shocked that nagato had the rinnegan because the only person who had it was the sage of six paths. he was the one who created ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu, so he was pretty strong. and he also had an elite dojutsu "the rinnegan." yet a mere boy with no experience in battle also had the rinnegan as well. considering he has the rinnegan he's prolly related to the sage of six paths. that's where the shock came from.

    why would he be scared or shocked when he's about to battle someone. in battle you have to be cool headed or you'll mess up and end up dead. and itachi clearly stated that he wanted to seperate jiraiya and naruto so that it would be easier for naruto to be apprehended. so jiraiya is obviously stronger than itachi and kisame put together. kisame said that jiraiya was a match for the both of them.





    Quote Originally Posted by 12LetterName View Post
    Keep your theories in the theory forum, in the manga forum we only discuss fact. Fact is Rinnegan has the ability to control 6 bodies, sharingan can cast genjutsu and copy ninjutsu. The if Sharingan burnt away one of Pein's bodies (assuming that the technique can't be used too much) Pein still has 5 more bodies and seeing how his bodies can come back from the dead it's unlikely that Sharingan will be able to take down the Rinnegan on strength alone.

    Maybe if the Sharingan user was extremely skilled but in terms of just Rinnegan vs Sharingan Rinnegan wins. Remember, genjutsu effects a BODY's senses, not the souls so even if Pain is split between the 6 bodies genjutsu would only be able to effect one of the bodies at one specific time, assuming that the use will have to concentrate to maintain a genjutsu Pain would easily strike down a Sharingan user at this weak moment.
    thank you. you pretty much said what i was thinking.

    ah yes, forgot sbout that

    anyways, countering the 6 bodies shouldn't be so hard. just create shadow clones, and i think kakashi mentioned that shadow clones can use any jutsu/techinique the original user can do. so it'll be 6 set of mangekyou vs 6 set of rinnegan. in which case rinnegan would lose if caught in any of the known mangekyou doujutsu, plus if thers any unexpected attacks the sharingan can easily see and respond to it.
    don't forget by creating shadow clones you'll be splitting your chakra 6 times evenly. that would be stupid cuz each clone will have a small amount of chakra(17%) as opposed to pein whose bodies have 100% chakra.

    Pain got cought in Genjutsu easily with the Toad song, and it was aimed at the Summoning Body (Pain), it wont take a second for a great Genjutsu fighter to take down a Rin'nengan.
    that wasn't any old genjutsu. it was a higly advanced one.



    regular genjutsus don't do what this one does. also even though jiraiya did this look what happened. it didn't do much. now pein is all set and has six bodies ready to fight.


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    and remember pein wasn't expecting genjutsu from jiraiya from the simple fact that he sucks at it....it would be much expected from a genjutsu specialist ie itachi and would be ready to counter it. tho to ironmaiden the sharingan is anything other than an ordinary genjutsu tho i don't think that was what you were getting at, just in case someone thought u did....both faults on Jiraiya's and Pein's side come from simple inexperience with the other's abilities, if Jiraiya knew that the Peins could be revived he would have taken measures to stop that. tho kudos to ironmaiden for the other great responses ^_^

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    I really dont think we can really say wich one is stronger, because there is so little info on both for example we dont even know if the Rinnenga has anything to do with Pain having six bodies for all we know it could be some kind of special jutsu(I dont think so I'm just using it as an example) or what the powers of the MS can do besides ripping dimensions on creating fire that burns what can be burn. Also I wouldn't use Itachi's lack of desire to fight Jiraiya as proof that the MS is inferior because unlike the Rinnenga he probably knows how to deal with a sharingan user MS because he lived in the villige it was created.

    I still vote Rinnegan because they say all jutsu came from the guy who had it before meaning the ability to make a Sharingan came from this guy(guess not a fact), also I am a little tire of people making such a fuss about the sharingan.

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