Rinnegan vs Mangekyou Sharingan

**12LetterName** · 11-30-2007, 07:56 AM

To make this argument is balanced we have to assume that neither users knew what the other one's ability did, we also have to assume that they've both achieved all there is to achieve in their respective skills and they are of similar ninja skill level. As far as we know the Rinnegan has the ability to control 6 bodies simultaneously while being able to cast any jutsu of any element. Also it has a wide range of summons, a body that absorbs all damage and ability to see through all the eyes of the collective 6. Sharingan on the other hand has advanced vision allowing the user to track movements precisely and copy them, also allowing to copy certain jutsus provided that the user has the skill to cast them with their own abilities. Also it has the MS which allows 2 advanced jutsu to be used, one is a powerful genjutsu and the other is a powerful flame.

Lets not assume random things such as "Sharingan might have a hidden ability that allows the user to blow up anyone they see." Right now we are arguing which one would win with what ability we have seen of them so far. Even if the full range of Rinnegan's abilities haven't been shown I still think that the Rinnegan would win. Hypothetical scenario:
Sharingan user fights with Rinnegan user on even grounds ad they are both equally skilled, Rinnegan user is able to take the upper hand as the use has a wider range of jutsu and all 6 chakra elements. Sharingan user must fight back by activating Ms and catching the Rinnegan user in a world of torture practically rendering the Rinnegan user useless.

So far the Rinnegan user has learned of the Sharingan's advanced genjutsu ability, advanced sight and maybe ability to copy jutsu if the Sharingan use decided to use it during the fight.
The Sharingan user has learned that the Rinnegan has all chakra elements and is able to cast virtually any jutsu, and maybe that it also has reasonably advanced sight. But when it catches the Rinnegan user in its genjutsu it thinks that it has won.

The Rinnegan user sends out 2 bodies that are well suited to fighting against the Sharingan user and breaks the other one out of it's genjutsu, the zero blind spot and 3 vs 1 soon lands the Rinnegan in a higher spot, once the Sharingan user is no longer able to keep up it decides to use it's Black fire and burns the 3 bodies. By now the Sharingan user is exhausted and the Rinnegan user simply sends out 3 more bodies, revives the other 3 and claims victory.

**spitfire** · 11-30-2007, 09:28 AM

you already know the answer so why bother asking, obviously rinnegan, jiraiya already stated it out

**emanresu** · 11-30-2007, 10:30 AM

It is said that Rinnegan cant be harm by either byaku/sharingan

**12LetterName** · 11-30-2007, 12:12 PM

Where does it say that?

**Kendoki** · 11-30-2007, 08:54 PM

Fact is Rinnegan has the ability to control 6 bodies,

We can only assume that. For all we know, it could just be one of Pain's Jutsu.

It is said that Rinnegan cant be harm by either byaku/sharingan

No, that's never been said, ever.

**nabeel27** · 11-30-2007, 10:19 PM

no way, mangekyo sharingan is wayy better. maybe rinnnegan is better than normal sharingan, but with MS is too much. when Jiraiya said its the most powerful of the 3 great eye techniques, im sure Jiraiaya doesnt really kno much about mangekyo sharingan...he certainly hasnt experienced it before. ang yo, Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya...seriously...he just avoids him because if they fought, Itachi would probably have to end up using MS and we all kno it damages the eyesight....so he tends to avoid encounters that are unneceassry and could result in unneeded damage. and Itachi was never of a fight-loving freak...hes calm and calculated. ye.

**Dabarnes** · 12-01-2007, 02:48 AM

Seeing as how Jiraiya says the Rinnegan is the strongest eye technique, we must assume it's the strongest. We don't really know the extent of it's abilities yet.

**12LetterName** · 12-01-2007, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by nabeel27

im sure Jiraiaya doesnt really kno much about mangekyo sharingan...he certainly hasnt experienced it before. ang yo, Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya...seriously...he just avoids him because if they fought, Itachi would probably have to end up using MS and we all kno it damages the eyesight....so he tends to avoid encounters that are unneceassry and could result in unneeded damage. and Itachi was never of a fight-loving freak...hes calm and calculated. ye.

I laugh at your incompetence, Firstly Jiraiya has experienced first hand what MS could do when Itachi threw the black fire at him. Secondly he has probably heard a lot about the MS from Kakashi and finally it was Itachi who avoided Jiraiya, not the other way around.

**couchcommando** · 12-01-2007, 03:31 AM

Until we see Rinnegan at its full potential which probably wont happen until Pain's final fight we cant tell until then.

**ByakuganSucka** · 12-01-2007, 04:46 AM

i truly believe the Rinnegan is stronger. although im a huge fan of the mangekyou. as far as we seen dimension opening is a possibility with the mangekyo (seen by Kakashi). But Pain was killed and yet still those three bodies remain. but all in all the rinnegan is still a mystery. and even Jiraiya said out all of the three doujutsus, the rinnegan was far the more superior