/\ this guy. pretty much silenced almara with that retort, which through my years of trolling this forum, have only seen happen a time or two. On the subject of whether Itachi was on his way toward gaining the rennegan...my only question is why? He is the type of man who always had a reason and an end result in mind. He needed to die at the hands of his brother. He didn't need rennegan for this. Which brings up the second reason why he probably wasn't on track for activating it...Why wouldn't he have mentioned this to sasuke? It just doesn't add up. Pretty much a closed book IMO
How amazing would it be if Oro had a major part to play in the formation of Tobi? We already know that he had been doing research on the 1st hokage's DNA for a long time, but who's research started first, Oro's or Tobi's? This might be a simple answer that has been stated in the manga that I have missed, I will have to check. But to me, it would be no surprise that they know eachother well and even worked together.
Think about this though, Oro wants an Uchiha body. BAD. So what does this crazy ape do? He tries to create one, artificially. With Uchiha DNA, the body he created would be capable of wielding the sahringan. When would an abundance of said DNA be available? After the massacre of course! If he had been doing so much research on the first's DNA, why not the strongest Uchiha to have ever lived. I think Oro def knows who Tobi is, because he helped to create him
also i think you're confusing strain and physical ailment with chakra drain, atleast when it comes to kakashi it is purely chakra draining but that can be explained by the fact that technically what kakashi has is EMS as kakashi like all ppl with EMS has gotten his eye operated in thus bypassing the blindness that would normally hit ppl with MS.
i dont exactly get why you're saying that bcoz the sharingan has a drawbacks for uchiha that it would suggest something more powerful will be more taxing, and assuming your right about the whole "sharingan needed for rinnegan" thing that you're preaching then you might have a point, but my point is, we know too little about the development of the rinnegan, yes, it seems the bloodline may be important, but for all we know it might be utterly pointless, the uchiha/senju/uzumaki bloodline mix might just be the easiest way to achieve an impure form of it and even then the version can never be the same as the version that the SO6P had since the uchiha/senju/uzumaki bloodlines would have been severely tainted and with very little of the SO6P blood left suggesting that it is entirely possible for some1 to develop the rinnegan without having the mixed bloodline.
and based on what you're argueing about then yeah ofc itachi is a candidate, but so would kakashi as he already have something from the uchiha clan and depending what his other heritage is, if it is senju or part senju, then kakashi would be atleast an equal or greater candidate, and naruto would be an equal candidate too if not greater since he is alive and all.
im not saying you're wrong, knife eater, but you're basing most of your arguements on things that havent been verfied, so as i said, i cant say you're flat out wrong, i just doubt you are correct, there are so many things in the manga that we are assuming to be true or false but have no way of prooving.
Seriously though guys, why wouldn't he have mentioned it to sasuke during their last conversation? If he had, or was in the process of obtaining the rennegan, he FOR SURE 100% would have mentioned it to him, as he is counting on Sasuke and naruto to defeat madara/tobi and help win the war.
It COULD be argued that he wouldn't want saucegay to use those powers against Konoha. I understand that, but then, think about when he was revived with Pain. He didn't act at all like he had personal, first hand, knowledge of all the powers associated with Rennegan. It all seemed like a mystery to him, how he achieved it and all..
BTW, is my avitar link broken? Sometimes I can see it and other times I cant. haha
Last edited by BlackZetsu; 07-18-2012 at 12:52 AM. Reason: questions fool
And about facts and evidence. We are dealing with an ongoing thrilling story which relies on the author to deliberately conceal and misdirected us on several levels. The discussion of itachis illness relies on how well you can see into the heresay and murkiness of cloudy details and use other devices or symbols to paint a picture that holds up. Things will change of course and speculation will be overturned, its why i like these threads but until they take rinnegan out of the direction if evolved sharingan its been going IM going to stick to my idea because its plain awesome and when sasuke finds himself on the cusp of that same power he will think back to his sick older brother who knew power wasn't everything and there is always a weakness. Having itachi sick from this sort of mutation had very clean fitting pieces of potential for sasukes character development in the future unless kishi tells us rinnegan can only be activated in the black cauldron of orochimaru's puffy snake den of legendary DNA excretement.
@almara, the kakashi argument isn't working, it so clearly doesn't fit. You did fine with the differences of exhaustion and ailment but it doesn't hurt my idea, though. Just need you guys to see that it makes more sense for him to not tell sasuke and even more evidence, actual evidence for this is itachi didn't bother telling sasuke much of anything about uchiha/sharingan powers. He was trying to show sasuke a path, not give him the instruction manual to sharingan. He knew izanagi but it wasn't important to tell sasuke. Sasuke learned most of the advanced sharingan elsewhere and independent of itachi. He demonstrated susanoo but never told sasuke he should have all the cool powers he had so he can beat madara. All of that is what he put on naruto.
Obito is Tobirama's great grandson. The proof is in the pudding.
He would've said something like that. For sure
Do you protect an alcoholic brother or sister by warning them of all the beer in the fridge? Same principle.
Obito is Tobirama's great grandson. The proof is in the pudding.
i would agree with blackZetsu, itachi would have told sasuke if he had been developing the rinnegan and itachi's M.O. wasnt keeping secrets from sasuke but to do whatever he could to protect sasuke and if itachi became ill due to the sharingan or dvelopment of the rinnegan, he would definately have told sasuke.