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    sharingan made him better.


    The only comparsion we have is a narrow time before and after he got the sharingan.

    Compare his skill before he got the sharingan to just after obito died.

    U will find he got alot better in that comparion movement wise and jutsu wise because chadori needing u to spot ur blind spots quicker.

    No point in fantasing what could have happened if didnt have the sharingan right now because kishi from since kahashi was small made him use the sharingan. It would be quite different if he got the sharingan later in his life like danzo for example. Then u have a decent comparion of what the ninja could achieve without the sharingan and with it .

    The sole reason Kahashi is as smart as he is now with jutsu is because u got used to using an activted sharingan since he was young. So things like reading a fight to understanding how jutsu works is because of his skill with the sharingan.

    U cant say without the sharingan kahashi would still be as sharp compared to how he became now with the sharingan.

    U cant say anything else really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbee View Post
    What I'd like to see is for Kishi to give Kakashi a Power-Up. Maybe some kind of Chakra storing device. There are at least two examples I can think of of such. 1) Tsunade's Jewel, 2) Samehada.
    I was hoping that when the Shinobi alliance was formed and Kakashi was chosen as a general that one of the villages that the leaf had not been seen as allies with (village hidden in the cloud, rock or mist) would appear to have control the land originally belonging to the Hatake family (before ninja villages wore formed). Then the revealed they had the white chakra metal which resonates with kakashi's chakra. They would either by know the location of the metal reserve or they had found a blade once used by Hatake shinobi. I thought it could have been presented to him just before the war and they have been willing to give it over as it takes a Hatake bloodline for the blade to work at a higher level to any other blade.

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    well, the sharingan made kakashi stronger in some areas and weaker in others. for example the sharingan drains his already small chakrapool when he uses it, so that is a great weakness for kakashi, so he would have to end fights relatively fast or he would simply die of exhaustion. Also one would think that the sharingan has also made him more reliant on it, so if it gets taken away or gets neutralized(through a jutsu or something) then kakashi will be at a huge handicap as well, so clearly it made him stronger in some areas and weaker in others.

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    The only thing that was of true detriment to Kakashi upon receiving the Sharingan was his stamina. Obtaining the Sharingan through methods independent of genetic inheritance put a very heavy strain on his body and the way he utilizes his chakra. Though his coping with it certainly has improved over time, he still is unable to perform feats and techniques that require a high amount of chakra from the individual. Other than that, the Sharingan has really been nothing but beneficial for him. In addition to attaining over 10,000 techniques, Kakashi also has the benefits that come with the Sharingan among other things. Things that, if not given to him, would probably have resulted in his life as a Shinobi to be a much more difficult one. In the grand schemes of things, the Sharingan has made Kakashi a stronger opponent and fighter.
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    ofc the sharingan is a benefit, it is a benefit to anyone that gets 1, its like having a gun in a knife fight. the main thing would be to still be standing when the gun is empty of bullets(in this case bullets would be stamina/chakra and the gun sharingan)

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    The sharingan is a tool. Kakashi is what makes it what it currently is. His weakness, statima/chakra won't change with or w/o the sharingan. Kakashi himself said that he could only do 3 Chidori's back then, having sharingan or not wouldn't have changed that as that would be his physical limit.

    Technique wise, through Sharingan, his learnt 1000 techniques. If he didn't have sharingan, he would most likely be stuck at 100 if that. I mean look at Naruto, Shikamaru, Choiji, Kiba ect. Isn't it always the same moves? He might have been able to master his fathers chakra blades, and most likely would have focused more on taijutsu to make up for his low chakra reserve, but with his sharingan, his able to fight on par with Guy, who is arguably one of the best taijutsu users around, so it's not like his at a loss.

    And developing a new technique if he didn't have the sharingan? What like Naruto did with his fuuton-rasenshuriken? With Kakashi's chakra, even if he managed to develop a super SS class technique, it would be a one shot deal for him, much like Kamui. If that's the case, then what's wrong with Kamui? It's sure as hell stronger than any other jutsu out there that we've been shown (bar the crazy bloodline limits).

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    I still believe Sharingan is the unique eye from Obito, and this is the present to Kakashi, so it will only make Kakashi more strong!
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    i believe it made him stronger

    his battling skill has increased a lot thanks to the gift from his friend
    it really saves his life at times

    Kakashi is sooo cool~

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    the main problem with kakashi and his sharingan is the fact that he cant fight for a prolonged period of time, so if he meets an opponent that can extend the fight, then kakashi will loose due loosing all the stamina/chakra, bcoz the sharingan will keep using his already small chakrapool, so in that way kakashi got weaker.

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    In naruto, character, motivation, and personality play a significant roll in factoring a shinobi's strength. Its even part of the main themes of the story. Its not all about just the sharingan making him a better fighter but more importantly the events and people surrounding his receiving of that gift. The change of heart he had from believing the mission takes priority to instead value and protect the lives of your friends. That is what truly made kakashi stronger, that fundamental change in character and heart, its what makes sarutobi stronger than danzo and fit to be kage, its what gives shinobi a true and worthy reason to fight and beat the odds. His sharingan is a personal symbol and reminder of what obituaries taught him with that sacrifice. So ya, he didn't just get access to new fighting techniques but a change of heart and outlook.

    Purely from a physical standpoint, i honestly don't recall if kakashi has low stamina from birth or if its attributed to his sharingan being permanently active. In any case, it probably exercises his capacity for stamina up to a threshold, but not entirely equalized still with permasharingan. The limitation and necessity to end fights sooner is an interesting trade off to me and hard to see as a setback. It was bragged he had a nose to rival kiba's and the brains to match wits with shikamaru, both excellent attributes from the beginning, added now sharingan and you have a fighter with incredible unmatched senses who can almost always maintain element of surprise and offer the situation the solution to end almost any battle before it begins. Now if we could just see in the manga some regular honing and chunnin opponents we will see kakashi by comparison appear godly.

    I guess my point is that don't divorce his sharingan from the life changing events from which he got it because if he say took sharingan for himself from a slain opponent he would not be as strong as the kakashi who was given his sharingan at the sacrifice and wish of a friend. In all other ways and for sake of argument, he is stronger for having it.

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