View Poll Results: Who takes it: Naruto or Hashirama?

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  • He is the child of prophesy, after all: Naruto Uzumaki

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  • Legends are legends for a reason: Hashirama Senju

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    PAST [cross] FUTURE: Senju Hashirama x Naruto Uzumaki

    Even Madara Uchicha himself has confirmed: not only was Hashirama Senju the founder of the Hidden Leaf and trumper of in-his-prime Madara Uchiha, he was also one of the strongest ninja to ever have lived, second only to the original Sage. So much so that even today, every character with dreams of power seek HASHIRAMA'S power to fulfill them. And the results have always been more than impressive.

    But if the current generation will always surpass the one before, then how would he stand up to his own second coming - Uzumaki Naruto.

    Naruto, through sheer guts and the ability to never doubt himself, has risen from class clown/screw-up to fulfilling some of the most important prophesies of the series. That courage has also allowed him to wield two of the most dangerous/harmful powers in the Naruto universe. Through an impressive combination of these powers and his own conviction, he has defeated and turned some of his most powerful enemies to allies--from Zabuza and Haku, to Pain, to the Nine-tailed beast Kurama.

    The contenders:

    1st Hokage:
    - Mastery and exclusive use of Mokuton jutsus, able to generate living trees to attack, defend, entrap, and disable.
    - Darkness Jutsu that completely cuts off an opponents most vital asset: sight.
    - The ability to surpress the most destructive and powerful of the tailed beasts, Kurama
    - Ability to heal himself from injuries, without the need to form seals of any kind


    6th(?) Hokage:
    - Mastery of Sage Energy and its Jutsus that grant enhanced healing, resistance, power, and ability to sense and evade danger
    - Full cooperation (full mastery to come) of the raw power and chakra of Kurama, the strongest of the tailed beasts, for offensive and defensive purposes; bijuu are confirmed as stronger within a Jinchuuriki vs. on their own
    - Unpredictable nature that allows for quick battle adaptation and on-the-fly strategery (!wd)
    - Ability to make clones that can themselves enter and use all of the advantages of sage mode

    So if it came to blows between the direct descendant of the Senju and the realization of the SO6P's prophesy, who would take it?!

    Does Hashirama's reputation still stand, or has several generations been enough to truly evolve that one step beyond?
    vs. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirxxx View Post
    Even Madara Uchicha himself has confirmed: not only was Hashirama Senju the founder of the Hidden Leaf and trumper of in-his-prime Madara Uchiha, he was also one of the strongest ninja to ever have lived, second only to the original Sage. So much so that even today, every character with dreams of power seek HASHIRAMA'S power to fulfill them. And the results have always been more than impressive.

    But if the current generation will always surpass the one before, then how would he stand up to his own second coming - Uzumaki Naruto.

    Naruto, through sheer guts and the ability to never doubt himself, has risen from class clown/screw-up to fulfilling some of the most important prophesies of the series. That courage has also allowed him to wield two of the most dangerous/harmful powers in the Naruto universe. Through an impressive combination of these powers and his own conviction, he has defeated and turned some of his most powerful enemies to allies--from Zabuza and Haku, to Pain, to the Nine-tailed beast Kurama.

    The contenders:

    1st Hokage:
    - Mastery and exclusive use of Mokuton jutsus, able to generate living trees to attack, defend, entrap, and disable.
    - Darkness Jutsu that completely cuts off an opponents most vital asset: sight.
    - The ability to surpress the most destructive and powerful of the tailed beasts, Kurama
    - Ability to heal himself from injuries, without the need to form seals of any kind


    6th(?) Hokage:
    - Mastery of Sage Energy and its Jutsus that grant enhanced healing, resistance, power, and ability to sense and evade danger
    - Full cooperation (full mastery to come) of the raw power and chakra of Kurama, the strongest of the tailed beasts, for offensive and defensive purposes; bijuu are confirmed as stronger within a Jinchuuriki vs. on their own
    - Unpredictable nature that allows for quick battle adaptation and on-the-fly strategery (!wd)
    - Ability to make clones that can themselves enter and use all of the advantages of sage mode

    So if it came to blows between the direct descendant of the Senju and the realization of the SO6P's prophesy, who would take it?!

    Does Hashirama's reputation still stand, or has several generations been enough to truly evolve that one step beyond?
    vs. ???
    While that is a theme within the series, I think Naruto will probably suppress him if only for one reason... he is the Main character

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    you mean surpass him, zeroLT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeroLT View Post
    While that is a theme within the series, I think Naruto will probably suppress him if only for one reason...
    Cause Hashirama is really the Kyuubi in disguise?! :-P

    Well, I didn't list "Plot Armor", cause it kinda goes without saying. lol. So it's best to look at it without giving Naruto that overwhelming handicap over his opponent.

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    Once again guys; Hashirama is strong, we know that.

    - But even Hashirama would've lost against Minato, for example.

    Hashirama and Madara were perfectly matched out to each other, if it comes to jutus's / power. The biggest differences between them, is the WILL OF FIRE.
    Madara Uchiha always fought for POWER, for his own needs.. Hashirama fought WITH LOVE, for the ones he needed to save and protect. That power, Will of Fire, is something that comes from a pure heart..a power that will give you a BOOST and overwhelm your opponent with.

    I've been saying this from the beginning; the reason why Madara is using Hashirama's power this much, is because Kishimoto wants to show us, what 1st. Hokage was really made off. We haven't SEEN what Madara can do, with his evil powers. Kishimoto shows us through Madara, what Hashirama could in do his prime and what he was all capable off.

    DONT UNDERESTIMATE MADARA'S POWER, just because he didn't had the Mokuton. Remember that they fought each other MANY TIMES before and they all ended with a draw; their battle at the VOTE was a different one: Madara Uchiha knew that they were equal in power and his change of winning was very low; even with the Kyuubi next to him. So his MASTERPLAN was extracting DNA from him, so he went all out and fooled him and the shinobi world, that he was dead.

    Hashirama won the fight, but the battle still goes on.. and that battle is still Madara's hatred vs. Will of Fire.

    That means that Edo Madara is going to have a bigger role later on,.. we will see more of Madara Uchiha, because he is the LAST VILLAIN, and not Sasuke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almara View Post
    you mean surpass him, zeroLT?
    oops, LOL

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    ATM Naruto is outgunned. He has the potential and we all know he will surpass all other Hokages..........and even the SO6P, but he's not there yet. The outcome of this war will determine just how long it will take him to reach this new level.

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    If we're talking in terms of pure power (Hashirama vs. Naruto), here's my take: Imagine if Edo Madara was showing off Naruto's powers instead of Hashirama's. He could have his Kagebunshins each in a different Mode (Sage/Chakra Modes) and a different Doujutsu (Rinnegan, Sharingan, EMS). He could combine Rasenshuriken with his fire-style techniques to create an even more massive blaze. Basically, Sage Mode Kagebunshins with Rinnegan and Susano'o.. it's just too much to imagine. It's basically what'll happen if Naruto ever gains the Rinnegan (and all the evidence I need to say that this must NEVER happen unless the series is over and the final fight is done).

    I also think Naruto has even more guts/Will of Fire than Hashirama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rlinfamous View Post
    If we're talking in terms of pure power (Hashirama vs. Naruto), here's my take: Imagine if Edo Madara was showing off Naruto's powers instead of Hashirama's. He could have his Kagebunshins each in a different Mode (Sage/Chakra Modes) and a different Doujutsu (Rinnegan, Sharingan, EMS). He could combine Rasenshuriken with his fire-style techniques to create an even more massive blaze. Basically, Sage Mode Kagebunshins with Rinnegan and Susano'o.. it's just too much to imagine. It's basically what'll happen if Naruto ever gains the Rinnegan (and all the evidence I need to say that this must NEVER happen unless the series is over and the final fight is done).

    I also think Naruto has even more guts/Will of Fire than Hashirama.
    BINGO!! ching ching.. Thnk You.

    - and that's why they say: the next generation will surpass the previous one.. it will always evolve further, if it comes to power / jutsu's / WILL of FIRE.

    outgunned? Hell no.. Naruto with his current control over Kyuubi, would've made it very difficult for Hashirama.. their combination is from a whole different level of what Madara had over the Kyuubi. And imagine what will happen, if he combines SAGE MODE ( which will happen of course), that wouldn't even be fair for Hashirama if you ask me.
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    People should keep in mind that all that all this Hashirama glorifying is coming from Kabuto and Edo Madara. Think about that for minute.... Remember Orchimaru's & Jiraya's conversation back in part 1 during the sannin fight.











    How they define strength is completely different!


    Edo Madara/ Kabuto / Orchimaru = Ability is what true strength is and this is heard even in Madara's comment "strength is a real tangible thing".


    Hashirama/ Tsuande/ Hiruzen = True strength comes from within, from ones "will".



    This is why people are confusing Edo Madara's comments about Hashirama being the greatest shinobi since the Sage of the 6 Paths etc. and taking it literally. Its just an opinion and in that regard consider the source !!!
    Last edited by POW; 03-13-2012 at 05:28 AM.


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