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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    ^ What if he already obtained it ? What if the missing Shukaku, is already inside Sasuke ? Wouldn't that made him strong enough to fight Naruto (Sasuke always had to have less chakra than Naruto, so Shukaku would be enough ) ? If you ask me, it would make sense as Shukaku loves when his hosts are murderous psychopaths, not to mention his eyes do look a little deprived of sleep ;P.


    Most likely, in the end he is going to be linked to GM. To fuse the bijuu with GM you probably need to be So6p's descendant with powerful eyes. The life energy is already added to it by the 1st's clone and Yamamoto.
    Why Would Tobi, Who said he was going to do the Moon's Eye Plan by the end of the day, Give the Shukakuto Sasuke....Not that it's impossible, just Risky. But who knows, that may be part of Tobi's plan to control Sasuke...By giving him a taste of power using Shukakau, and then have him coming back for more when Naruto cleans his clock.

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    Tobi wants Saskue to sync up with Gedo Mazo/become the jinchuuriki of Jyubbi.

    But why? Maybe Tobi was Madara's original pawn for becoming Jyubbi jinchuuriki, but for some reason Tobi has other intentions. Meybe being the jinchuuriki for the Jyubbi means dying?


    Also, I believe Saskue is going to be the final villain which means he will not only achieve the rinnegan but the final eye that is on Tobi's mask and that the Jyubbi had..(the combo of the rinnegan and basic sharingan).
    1) Syncing to Geddou Mazou sucks your life force, leaving you a dried up husk like what happened to Nagato.

    2) Madara expected for Nagato to Revive him, Not Tobi. IMO MadaraWanted a Victim to Sync with GM, In order to a) Reconstitute the Juubi, b) Revive Madara.

    Madara Himself Would be the Jinchuuriki, That would give him the same God-Like power and Status of the SO6p.

    3) Tobi's role is to guide world events toward the Ressurection of Madara, including collecting the Bijuu.

    4) IMO Tobi is incompatible with the GM, because he is an artificial being, or at best a Chimera, Part Zets, Part Hashirama, Part Madara.


    Quote Originally Posted by Temperjoke View Post
    I wonder if Tobi really wants to sync Sasuke. I mean, the guy has created so many layers of lies and misdirection, I don't know what to think about his motives. I honestly think he wants to push Sasuke as far as he can go, but not necessarily in pursuit of the Moon's Eye plan. I think he wants to resolve the question of which son of the original Sage of Six Paths was better, by re-enacting the fight with Sasuke and Naruto as surrogates.

    Tobi definitely wants to do this too, and I think this is the Madara instinct inside him that is responsible.

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    To Tobi, Sasuke is a pawn he plans on using for the original purpose I imagine he had in mind for Nagato.


    After Nagato died Tobi was shocked as he said he didnt plan on Nagato dying for awhile but did eventually. This eventuality he was speaking of is probably the catalyst conversion process to reform the Jyuubi which I suspect is the Creation of All things jutsu. I mean if "Izanagi" with Uchiha causes them to go blind then a jutsu even more powerful the "Creation of all things" for Rinnegan users probably kills them.

    SO6P died after using Creation of All things partly because he removed the Bijuu chakra from himself but also from suing a jutsu of that magnitude. I suspect Madara used a similar jutsu to create Tobi and use Nagato as pawn for their long term plans.


    Whats not clear is how Madara was suppose to be revived if there is a limit on the Rinnegan Resurrection jutsu. Perhaps the length of time dead is proportional to the amount of chakra needed to revive them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    To Tobi, Sasuke is a pawn he plans on using for the original purpose I imagine he had in mind for Nagato.


    After Nagato died Tobi was shocked as he said he didnt plan on Nagato dying for awhile but did eventually. This eventuality he was speaking of is probably the catalyst conversion process to reform the Jyuubi which I suspect is the Creation of All things jutsu. I mean if "Izanagi" with Uchiha causes them to go blind then a jutsu even more powerful the "Creation of all things" for Rinnegan users probably kills them.

    SO6P died after using Creation of All things partly because he removed the Bijuu chakra from himself but also from suing a jutsu of that magnitude. I suspect Madara used a similar jutsu to create Tobi and use Nagato as pawn for their long term plans.


    Whats not clear is how Madara was suppose to be revived if there is a limit on the Rinnegan Resurrection jutsu. Perhaps the length of time dead is proportional to the amount of chakra needed to revive them.
    It's more like he didn't want Nagato's death, but he was prepared if that were to happen.

    Seeing as there are tons of things made by him, it's hard to believe, but on the other hand, he could made them with "normal" methods.

    Nagato's jutsu was indeed limited by time, but there is no reason why another jutsu can't be used to turn back the body to the time just after death. Actually, it might be the real reason why Tobi is capable of using Space-Time ninjutsu, to revert real Madara's body to the proper, just after the death, state, after which Nagato would use his jutsu to revive him.



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