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    Senior Member Afro Thunda's Avatar
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    Wow OldChemist, you really think Unohana became a captain by being able to heal only? I seriously doubt that. If she's not so adept at fighting, I bet she's got an arsenal of Kido spells at her fingertips. Actually, I think Kido fits her perfectly now. What do you guys think?

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    You know, I don't think it's wise for anyone to underestimate Unohana-san. Despite the 4th squad's emphasis on healing, they are shinigami after all — ergo, they can fight — and Unohana is a captain. Besides, the fact that she's perfectly calm walking around Hueco Mundo with only her lieutenant for company means that she's very confident that no one (or only a few) will be able to significantly harm her. I don't see her as the type to be overconfident, so there has to be a reason for it, right?

    It's just personal preference on my part, but I tend to divide the Gotei 13 captains into three groups: the senior captains, the veteran captains, and the newbie captains. This division isn't supported by canon, of course, but it does make sense to me. ^^

    The newbie captains are those who are [relatively] new as captains (of course), and on general, tend to be weaker than the senior and veteran captains. These include Komamura, Gin, Tousen, Hitsuguya, Soifon, Mayuri, Byakuya and Zaraki. Byakuya and Zaraki (and possibly Mayuri) are incredibly strong, no doubt about it, but it's also clear that their history with the Gotei 13 is still new when compared to the others: Byakuya inherited his position (not to say he didn't earn it ^^) and Zaraki butchered his way into his. Mayuri, Soifon and Gin were all protégés of a senior member, and Komamura, Tousen, and Hitsuguya did it the normal way: through school.

    The senior captains, on the other hand, are those who I consider to be among the original Gotei 13. So far, this only includes Captain-General Yamamoto, Ukitake, and Shunsui. Actually, this group is canon. ^^

    Now, the veteran captains are those who aren't newbies, but aren't part of the original crew either. Aizen is in this group, and very possibly Unohana as well (I can't see her as being a newbie, can you?). Former members of this group would include Urahara, Yoruichi (whether she was in the Gotei 13 or even a Shinigami at all may be debatable, but there's no doubt that she is captain-class), and possibly Kurosaki Isshin.

    Again, like I said earlier, that's just how I see it. In terms of power, I'd rank the three groups this way: senior captains > veteran captains > newbie captains, with Zaraki and Byakuya being the exceptions. ^^

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    She was the one that noticed something strange about Aizen's body, which he created with his Shikai ability though, which impressed aizen quite some...

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    I personally think Unohana will show off her true power or at least some of it. We might see the true reason why everyone seems to fear her or at least are very cautious of her.

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    Wow OldChemist, you really think Unohana became a captain by being able to heal only? I seriously doubt that. If she's not so adept at fighting, I bet she's got an arsenal of Kido spells at her fingertips. Actually, I think Kido fits her perfectly now. What do you guys think?
    Well, all you really need is bankai to become a captain. If her bankai is healing, then yes, she did become captain by just being able to heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendoki View Post
    Well, all you really need is bankai to become a captain. If her bankai is healing, then yes, she did become captain by just being able to heal.
    Actually, having a bankai is just one of the requirements for passing the captain proficiency test, which in turn is just one of three possible ways for a shinigami to become a captain. The test itself isn't mentioned in detail, but I'd say that mastery of at least kidou and shunpo is needed. Also, since the Commander-General needs to be one of the witnesses, I'd say the applicant also needs to have above average fighting skills (I can't imagine that stuck-up old geezer admitting anyone less).

    Also, the 4th Division aren't doctors, per se, but rather combat medics — and by that, I mean combat medics in the non-modern sense of the word (since modern combat medics are protected by laws and such). Combat medics traditionally are able to at least defend themselves against attack since they are the ones usually targeted. In a sword-based militaristic society (like Soul Society), that means having above average swordfighting skills. Sure, there are 4th Division members who aren't really fit for fighting (Hanataro, for one), and those are the ones who usually stay behind and play doctor. However, I don't doubt that there are 4th Division shinigami who also go on missions in order to treat other shinigami in the field. These are the ones who can fight. The fact that Captain Unohana ventured into Hueco Mundo indicates that she is a field combat medic — and really, when you have "captain" and "combat" in the same sentence, that generally means that ass-kicking is a definite possibility. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hraefn View Post
    You know, I don't think it's wise for anyone to underestimate Unohana-san. Despite the 4th squad's emphasis on healing, they are shinigami after all — ergo, they can fight — and Unohana is a captain. Besides, the fact that she's perfectly calm walking around Hueco Mundo with only her lieutenant for company means that she's very confident that no one (or only a few) will be able to significantly harm her. I don't see her as the type to be overconfident, so there has to be a reason for it, right?

    It's just personal preference on my part, but I tend to divide the Gotei 13 captains into three groups: the senior captains, the veteran captains, and the newbie captains. This division isn't supported by canon, of course, but it does make sense to me. ^^

    The newbie captains are those who are [relatively] new as captains (of course), and on general, tend to be weaker than the senior and veteran captains. These include Komamura, Gin, Tousen, Hitsuguya, Soifon, Mayuri, Byakuya and Zaraki. Byakuya and Zaraki (and possibly Mayuri) are incredibly strong, no doubt about it, but it's also clear that their history with the Gotei 13 is still new when compared to the others: Byakuya inherited his position (not to say he didn't earn it ^^) and Zaraki butchered his way into his. Mayuri, Soifon and Gin were all protégés of a senior member, and Komamura, Tousen, and Hitsuguya did it the normal way: through school.

    The senior captains, on the other hand, are those who I consider to be among the original Gotei 13. So far, this only includes Captain-General Yamamoto, Ukitake, and Shunsui. Actually, this group is canon. ^^

    Now, the veteran captains are those who aren't newbies, but aren't part of the original crew either. Aizen is in this group, and very possibly Unohana as well (I can't see her as being a newbie, can you?). Former members of this group would include Urahara, Yoruichi (whether she was in the Gotei 13 or even a Shinigami at all may be debatable, but there's no doubt that she is captain-class), and possibly Kurosaki Isshin.

    Again, like I said earlier, that's just how I see it. In terms of power, I'd rank the three groups this way: senior captains > veteran captains > newbie captains, with Zaraki and Byakuya being the exceptions. ^^
    I like the way you look at things, but it's been hinted that Unohana has been a captain just as long or longer than Ukitake and Kyoraku (who did go through school before becoming shinigami. Genryuusai actually said that they were the first of his graduates to become captains). That means neither one of them are "original". I dont think anyone including Genryuusai are of the original Gotei 13. SS has existed since the beginning of time. So the originals have either died of old age (shinigami do age, just extremely slowly, then return to earth as new souls to start the cycle over blah blah blah) or died in battle.

    But still I like your classifications Sr, Vet, and Rookies (rookie sounds better than "newb"... lol). Though this is hard to classify because what actually determines the grade? Time? Well most of the current Gotei 13 caps came into power during the 100 years. Let me take a shot at it, making exceptions where needed.

    Rookie Captains; Hitsugaya, Mayuri, Soi Fon
    Vet Captains; Byakuya (technically rookie, not skill wise though), Kenpachi, Komamura
    Sr. Captains; Genryuusai, Unohana, Ukitake, Kyoraku

    But to say Unohana "may" not be strong because she is part of squad 4 is ridiculous. She's a captain for a reason, and shes probably been one for a long time which would stress her experience. All members of the 4th squad are combat trained as much as any other shinigami, except their kido is probably focued more on healing and spatial abilities as Isane demonstrated. Besides, have any of you seen her zanpakuto? That things pretty big to not be able to deal damage... it's huge.

    And yeah, notice how Aizen kept his distance and how respect he showed her while just speaking to her. Aizen tends not to respect anyone he considers "trash", at best he talks down to them like he did with Hitsugaya, and Renji. That wasnt the case with her.

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    Hanataro's in 4th division, and he's a healer, but he still has a kick-ass attack.

    Hanatarō Yamada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    (I'm not sure if this is in the manga or only the anime, but it seems a bit unlikely that Kubo would let the anime come up with something like that all on their own.)

    The point is, perhaps Unohana is the same way. Maybe she heals mostly but has a Zanpakuto that incorporates healing somehow. We have seen her shikai during the Soul Society arc, and it was a giant creature that healed people, so it seems to not be an attack monster, but maybe her bankai would heal and cause a lot of damage.

    Or maybe it's all just kido, like afro thunda said.
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    I think she's pure ownage with the kido. That just seems like something that would fit her character better than her handing out ass whuppins with her sword.

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    I don't think we've actually seen a true kido 'master,' yet in the manga/animated series, right? I hope she turns out to be a kick ass captain as a kido specialist. The field of spells are pretty interesting and I doubt we've seen all of what it has to offer.
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