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    Black Natured Jutsu

    This is something I have thought about for awhile and probably deserves its own thread. We have seen at least 3 examples of Black natured jutsu's in the form of Amaterasu , Black Panther & a Bijuu bomb.


    First let us examine the 3 ways Chakra can be manipulated which we know of.

    Shape manipulation - Allows one to take raw or elemental chakra and reshape it focusing it make better use of its power or expanding it to fit various purposes.

    Examples: Chidori Spear & Rasengan


    Nature Transformation - Taking raw chakra and transforming it into an elemental nature such Fire, Wind, Lightning, Earth or Water.

    Examples: Great Fire Ball & Water Encampment Wall


    Yin/Yang Alteration - This was first mentioned during Naruto's Rasenshuriken training and has been expanded on. It is the Positive and Negative aspect incorporating the manipulation of Mental & Physical aspects of Chakra.

    Examples: Reverse Four Symbols Sealing Technique & Bijuu bomb



    This brings us to the next part which is the Black Natured Jutsu explanation. Lets us examine the 3 examples of black jutsu.


    Amaterasu - A fire based black natured jutsu which is said to represent the Material World and Light. Only Uchiha who are fire natured obtain this with the MS.

    Black Panther - A lightning based jutsu used by Darui who learned Black lightning jutsu's from the 3rd Raikage himself.

    Bijuu Bomb - The ultimate Bijuu weapon of choice created by using shape manipulation through chakra compression and then manipulating the Yin Yang ratio of the chakra by an aspect of 8:2 ( 8 - Positive Black (Yin) / 2- Negative White (Yang) )



    - So using what we know we can deduce that Black natured elemental chakra incorporates Yin/Yang manipulation to disrupt the balance thus increasing its destructive power similar to a Bijuu bomb.

    The Uchiha possess powerful Mental energies which is why their dojutsu is Genjutsu based. Mental energy is represented by Yin or Positive Black chakra. Hence you can see the direct link to Amaterasu.


    So with that in mind one can assume their may be other black elemental jutsu's like Black Water, Wind or Earth however being able to pull it off would require one to obviously have that nature and a great deal of skill in Yin/Yang manipulation.

    Someone with fire nature with enough skill could possible be able to use an Amaterasu based jutsu with the only difference being it would require hand seals and skill in altering Yin/Yang ratio.


    The reason why we dont see more people use it is probably goes to show the level in difficulty it takes to use Nature manipulation + Yin/yang alteration. Look how hard it was for Naruto to master the Rasenshuriken which only uses Nature transformation + Shape manipulation


    Clearly Darui of the Cloud has great skill being able to use Shape manipulation + Nature transformation+ Yin/Yang alteration all at once with his Black Panther Lightning.


    Feel free to discuss...


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    interesting... take a shot at explaining black chidori which sasuke only had access to through the curse seal, i want to see how you fit that technique in with all of this :]
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    Also what I should have emphasized is it requires strong mental energies from the user to be able to use Black elemental jutsu. When Sasuke was in CS2 obviously his power level was beyond his normal capacity as the very nature of the CS is a power boost mode. Sasuke's chakra and mental energies in that state where far more potent than normal and thus yes he may have unintentionally affected his Chidori turning it black.

    Not quite the same level of potency in say Darui's Black lightning but perhaps a weaker version of black lightning. The same might be true if someone of Fire nature tried to use Black Fire element it may not be as potent as a Uchiha using Amaterasu as they have strong mental energies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by POW View Post
    Also what I should have emphasized is it requires strong mental energies from the user to be able to use Black elemental jutsu. When Sasuke was in CS2 obviously his power level was beyond his normal capacity as the very nature of the CS is a power boost mode. Sasuke's chakra and mental energies in that state where far more potent than normal and thus yes he may have unintentionally affected his Chidori turning it black.

    Not quite the same level of potency in say Darui's Black lightning but perhaps a weaker version of black lightning. The same might be true if someone of Fire nature tried to use Black Fire element it may not be as potent as a Uchiha using Amaterasu as they have strong mental energies.
    Your reasoning have actually made me uncertain about Sasuke's Black Chidori, but I still believe that it was just a result of he's chakra being black when affected by the Curse Mark, and that it's not a result of yin/yang, not in a direct way at least.


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    interesting idea. there is yin and yang jutsu's. yin being the surreal ( genjutsu) and the yang being the real ( ninjutsu.) yang can be further broken down between shape and elemental manipulation.

    what you are proposing is that there is another manipulation type. tho this manipulation isnt a sub-catagory of yin or yang type jutsus, but the proportion of yin and yang chakra applied to those type of jutsu's?

    so when a yang jutsu gets yin chakra it become unreal ( in the case of amaterasu, black color, extreme temp, and longer duration, all of which are completely unrealistic) of course it would require some control of skill.

    if this is true is it safe to say that when a YIN jutsu receives more YANG chakra that it becomes more, real? (izanagi)

    this would give us an more defined way of classify jutsus we see ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by StareIntoMySharingan View Post
    interesting... take a shot at explaining black chidori which sasuke only had access to through the curse seal, i want to see how you fit that technique in with all of this :]
    totally different, ssasuke chakra in cs mode was black. Just like the fox's chakra is red.

    Completely different matter entirely.


    Just wanted to mention positve and negative enengy is different from physical and spiritual energy. As in naruto's case the fox hasnt got his yin portion of his chakra.

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    Well, if genjutsu can be considered Black Type Jutsu (violet, red & black color ?), then the medical jutsu should be considered White Type Jutsu (green, yellow & white color ?).


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