Nagato's Rinnegan orgins

[Zero]

Well, you all assume that Sage of the six path was the first and only (unitll Nagato) rinnegan user. What if he found one sooner and killed him because he couldn't use/control him and used his body to make Nagata another rinnegan user, or found body of one that wasn't well known (Nagato's perents were normal people, not even low class shinobi)) ?

[Raf]

to have a rinnegan or sharingan or even bjakugan, and to get full power of it, you need a bloodlie....maybe sage wasn't the only one that had the rinnegan, but he was the only one known in the manga besides nagato...
but, there is one thing now that you sad it zero...nagato wasn't as powerfull as the sage, so maybe nagatos eyes weren't his, nor did he had any blood line...hm this is getting tricky

[rinnebadass]

rinnegan has nothing to do with bloodline. this is manga fact. rinnegan is not a mutation either. another mangat fact. rinnegan is a tool of god. the one that was bor with it is rikodou's reincarnation. look at nagato's amount of strong chakra etc etc.

not only that is mangat fact, but it is also cannon that madara (if he is alive) doesn't stand a chance against a s-rank shinobi.

you guys are reading the wrong manga.

we only saw a crippled and almost dying nagato fighting.. still, he was the strongest shinobi that ever appeared in this manga. if he was healthy, OMG..... he wouldn't even need anyone to go head on against the five great villages (one first..them the other..etc) and destroy all of them.
rikodou was stronger because he was a SENNIN meaning that his jutsus were bigger.

[Raf]

so, by what deduction did you come up with rinnegan being the tool of god?
kakashi sad that rinnegan wah a mutation, madara shared a light witn kakashi that it wasn't the mutation, but a tool of god(which, when it's coming from madara it probably isn't true), and then, lastly, madara sad that he gave nagato the rinnegan...also, if you want to know facts, rinnegan is was called the ultimate eye tech, and for a eye tech to be at it's fullest, it need a body that will support it, or at least some blood relevance...

also, where did you found out that madara doesn't stand a chance against s-rank shinobi? he didn't want to fight danzo, coz he wanted sasuke to get his revenge, and then be compeld to take itachis eyes..and about nagato, why do all the people think that nagato was sick, injured? he is in some kind of a machine, but I still don't see it as if he was sick...he revived all konaho shinobi...he was powerful, but not as ridoku, and his tactics were good, but still, he could have been easyly overcomeed if a strong shinobi knew his secret...

[rinnebadass]

jiraya and the toads talking about rinnegan?the tool of god that will bring destruction etc etc.

a clan of rinnegan users don't exist. a person born with rinnegan is somewhat a reincarnation of rikodou that will save or destroy the world. manga cannon.

every s-rank that madara (tobi) tried to fight was able to defeat him very quickly. however he can only be defeat if he trully fights someone (he becomes solid when he atacks).

do you have a brain right?do you saw that nagato wasnt able to move or fight right? he had no more life force left (he is only skin and bones and when he uses the last tech, his hair becomes white) since he was overusing gedo mazo for days in a row during years. yes he was weak and still was able to do that.

he could have been easily overpowered if a strong shinobi knew his secret?are you kidding? imagine deva path with the others five paths (covering the second gap). how can someone beat that? plus, pain itself is just a tech.

if nagato was healthy he wouldn't have needed those bodies and he was able to fuse all pain's powers + 5 elements + gedo mazo + all life and death powers + sealing techs in his own body. however he was phisically weak and unable to fight only because he was overusing gedo mazo (he had no life force and phisical streng left and had those black rods in all is organs etc. so he wasn't able to move). this is manga cannon.

about danzo, a glare was enough for tobi to stand up (see it for itself) and become intimidated somehow.

[Raf]

about the clan, manga canon etc, okey, I get that, but I think there is more to it...and about all the rest, you are just small minded freak...you don't want to think about pains ability/disability and the way his power made him...if madara really gave him rinnegan, than there probably is another way to obtain it without being the reincarnation of sage....

[Riceman]

about the clan, manga canon etc, okey, I get that, but I think there is more to it...and about all the rest, you are just small minded freak...you don't want to think about pains ability/disability and the way his power made him...if madara really gave him rinnegan, than there probably is another way to obtain it without being the reincarnation of sage....

well if there was another way to obtain one then tobi wouldnt have to go and find nagato body >.>

[Raf]

so, you want to say that if there is a way to give rinnegan to some one that that is the easy way...and it doesn't meter that tobi planed this hole thing alone?

[Rokudaime Sennin ™]

you guys are making it way too complicated. Rinnegan comes from Tobi. Rinnegan comes from the heavens. Therefore Tobi = the heavens. Simple

[Zero]

Well there is a way to obtain a powerfull kekkei genkai, yet having no blood relationship with the clan. Tenzou/Yamato and Danzou are a perfect proof of that.

And as we all know the only doujutsu with mayor drawbacks may be sharingan (it needs hatred to fuel it ;P). The hyuga clan may be using a seal on the eyes(it's located on the forhead ;p) because it's easy to transplant with no drawbacks. We don't know if that mist ninja that was able to read Tobi's genjutsu on 4 mizukage has any drawbacks, or weaknes because of not being related to the clan (or maybe he is ? ).

Besides creating another rinnegan user that could be easily controled is not easy and it takes time. Tobi is at war right now, close to fulflling his plan and doesn't whant to wait any longer. There is already fully prepared rinnegan that can be easily (at least he thinks that ;p) gained, so it's logical that he would go and try to get it.