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    Also something to support your theory of him being Vegapunk, reason why he gave the order to kill Moria. Maybe Moria is his pacifist weakness? We know he made from bodies so if Moria implants a shadow in it he can easily take it over.

    I still don't think it's him though and here is a good assumption to help support your theory enjoy it. (Not mine some one elses, still doesn't change my mind.)

    Well in the chapter Doflamingo does categorically state two important points about the mystery person:

    - That the person holds a very special position of importance in the Marines
    - That the person regardless of the said importance has no official authority over Doflamingo

    Now we take these two into context with the fact that to our knowledge there is very little between Sengoku and the Gorouseii in terms of authority other than Kong. While its not unrealistic, it is a bit ...inefficient to put someone else in that middle ground.

    We already know that Gorouseii are, short of maybe the Tenryuubitto and possibly a King / Emperor figure (far fetched), the highest authority on the planet. So if its not anyone of these people that we have seen, and Doflamingo specifically makes the statement about authority, who else could it be?

    While I'm not saying that it IS Vegapunk with certainty, the pieces do seem to fit together. Lets examine what we know about Vegapunk:

    - He is a genius scientist whose inventions have basically allowed the Marines to become the force they are today. Think about everything he has created, the Pacifista + Kuma, Devil Fruit research, not to mention what could be an endless array of deadly weapons. With this in mind its not hard to imagine that such a man would hold tremendous influence in the Marine hierarchy, even if he might not hold any official authority or title.

    - The fact that he has someone like Sentoumaru to protect him and his lab shows how much the Marines value him, not to mention the supposed reaction to Franky's blowing up his old home.

    So now we come to why someone like Vegapunk would be ordering Doflamingo around. This is where it becomes tricky as we know nothing about Vegapunk as a person other than the fact that he has to potential to be a stereotypical Mad Scientist / Evil Genius.

    What we do know is that Doflamingo is a power hungry and ruthless character with bold ambitions and no set reason to be loyal to the Marines. Yes he followed orders during the War and its Aftermath but from his behavior and his actions its clear he did it more because he enjoys violence and chaos and it suits his ends. His conversation with the mystery person only reinforces this point, he categorically states that he would simply walk away if he the job wasn't "interesting".

    The reason Vegapunk and Doflamingo would work together could be simple; Vegapunk might have nasty ambitions of his own and may have teamed up with DoFla with the promise of giving him the means to achieve his ends in exchange for cooperation. This could mean anything, heck Vegapunk might secretly give DoFla use of Pacifista units to do his dirty work. In the end DoFla can have his New Age and Vegapunk can do whatever he has planned.

    I admit almost everything in the last part is wild speculation but the examination of facts may ultimately point to this conclusion eventually.

    But then again, this is One Piece. Not one of us on this forum would be here if it was anything but unpredictable.

    Heck the mystery person might even be a girl..notice the weird hair / shadows under the bowler hat......BTW who the heck wears a bowler hat anymore???
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    Quote Originally Posted by athary View Post
    I said no because. when moria asked don flamingo who orderd him to do this and suggested that is was sengoku. don flamingo said it was someone higher.
    I don't think Vegapunk stands higher than Sengoku in rank before he retired.
    this beeing Sabo is a better theorie. but i don't think oda would put him with the goverment.
    if it's Sabo ,i think he is a spy for the R.A holding a high rank in the goverment.
    Vegapunk works for the World Government. World Government officials will always be higher in rank than the Marines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireFistLuffy View Post
    This the proof Sabo is alive;

    http://www.mangareader.net/103-54487...apter-589.html

    The mysterious guy has a higher chance to be Sabo then vegapunk but I don't think it's either of them that's my answer. Reason why not vegapunk because a high ranked goverment official being shady behind the curtains making deal with a pirate does not sound like the genius we been revealed he is with knowledge surpassing 2-300 years into the future. I just can't mix that type of personality with vegapunk. It'd be awesome if Dofla sits in front of Vegapunk, but Vegapunk is a member of the marine scientists. Sengoku is the head of marines, so nobody in the marine is above him. But Doflamingo said Sengoku didn't send him 2 kill Moria, it was someone higher. So to me chances of him being Vegapunk are near close to zero. Maybe its another chief in command like Kong, or a special noble. Reason why I think higher chance of being Sabo not only the hat but also he's in a wheel chair, last we saw Sabo he got shot by the celestial dragon then Dragon and his crew took care of his injures. I really doubt though Sabo would turn into a really high rank Goverment Official sneakily dealing business with pirates.
    I too believe that Dragon saved Sabo but the link you gave didn't give solid evidence that it was really Sabo.

    I think there is a good chance it could be Vegapunk but I don't have evidence to back it up though.

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    Why would Sabo name even mentioned here? Like he would really join the WG after getting shot in the face.

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    yeah man..if he ever alive, he should be with dragon,not the other way around..

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    I like the idee of Vegapunk bieing about a young genius so i'm giving my vote for him bieing the man ho "controlls" Don Flamingo :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunder Luffy View Post
    I like the idee of Vegapunk bieing about a young genius so i'm giving my vote for him bieing the man ho "controlls" Don Flamingo :p

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    I didend mean litterly controll thats why i put it between i did tis "controll" i ment the man who made him shibukai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunder Luffy View Post
    I didend mean litterly controll thats why i put it between i did tis "controll" i ment the man who made him shibukai
    lmao, just got trolled by the troll king.

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    @FF I don't see how that is proof that sabo is alive...and to answer your question, vegapunk wears a bowler hat these days ;P and i didn't see any weird hard, do you mean the feathers/fur on his coat? And the shadows' point was to hide his face.

    @athary, nobody ever said he had more power than sengoku. We know this mysterious person has power in the WG, but we don't know how much. He could have less, he could have more. All we do know is the E5S has the most power in the WG

    Click to get your very own:Superrr~ Cross777 repellent^

    There's a saying in the OP forums which goes like this..."If a new unidentified character is wearing a hat, he must be Sabo!"...Yeah, take that Obitio/Tobi/Madara theorists!

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