r u sure there marked by the others i mean we dont know what terms they where on because kiadu tried to WB 1 of 2 reasons
1 he wanted to save WB from a fate that he saw coming
2 or he just does not like WB
and big mum did nothing for one of two reasons
1 she hates him so she wanted him to die
2 she respected his choice
and we know where shanks stands so?