Prime EMS Madara that fought Hashirama:
Tsukuyomi - would be good at it, but not at Itachi level
Amaterasu - would be good with it, but not at Sasuke's level
Susanoo - would be good with it, but no spiritual weapons to make that thing "invincible"
Kyubi Control/Summoning - used it against Hashirama and lost his pet
EMS jutsu: unknown
Prime EMS Sasuke that will fight Naruto:
Tsukuyomi: definitely not at Itachi level but potential's there
Amaterasu: took it to a whole other level with Enton kagutsuchi, surpassing Itachi's control and possibly Madara's.
Susanoo: I can guarantee you that after receiving the EMS, he would've gotten the spiritual weapons as well. That puts his Susanoo above prime Madara's Susanoo.
Kyubi Control - He can control it as well, if the bitch was free.
EMS jutsu: unknown
I'm sure prime Madara would have other powerful jutsus as well, so does Sasuke, with kirin and chidoris, but none of them compares to the Mangekyou jutsus.
As you can see, EMS Sasuke has alot more power than EMS Madara mainly due to the spiritual weapons, sword of totskano no tsurugi and the yata no kagami mirror. Madara had strongest chakra in his clan at that time, and I bet you Sasuke would've had the strongest chakra in his clan now. In fact, prolly the strongest spiritual energies which makes his powerful chakra since the elder son. Sasuke's eyes had the strongest potential as stated by both Itachi and Madara who would know best about the uchiha potential. Sasuke's hatred is greater than Madara's, that's what powers his spiritual energies (the darkness in his heart), he's had far a greater/more justified reason to hate than Madara.
If Sasuke doesn't get the weapons, he'll drop down a notch, but still be slightly more powerful than EMS Madara cause of those reasons mentioned above. Kyubi Sage jinchuriki Naruto's alot more powerful than mokuton wielder Hashirama, so you can bet EMS Sasuke needs to match that, as there will always be a balance, and the weapons are a great way to do that.
Man, I can't wait till Sasuke masters his Tsukuyomi, Itachi style and then uses it on Tobi to give him a taste of his own medicine. Then Sasuke can go onto become the final villain.
Anyways, to stay on topic, for those who were wishing to see prime EMS Madara, it'll be a similar experience that you'll get with EMS Sasuke. (plus more in Sasuke's case)
What spiritual weapons? I have never seen Sasuke use them. Of course it can be assumed he has them now, but how much do we really know about these spiritual weapons in the first place? Virtually nothing. SO until he is shown to have them, let us keep that out of the discussion since it leads nowhere.
How can you say Sasuke's hatred is more than Madaras? Do you know how much hatred it takes to pursue this goal of his despite defeat after defeat and still keep on going to the lengths that Madara goes to? Not to mention we are talking potential here, not the current state of things. I know Sasuke will surpass Madara's power. It is the the most logical thing when concerning the continuity of the whole generational succession idea the manga has.
And finally, the assumption that Sasuke is stronger than prime madara because his ems is supposedly stronger than Madara's is also illogical. So what, there are no other factors in determining one's stregnth? How about Madara's experience as a top shinobi constantly fighting wars against powerful rival clans? Or maybe his other jutsus, skills and abilities?
This is why I say we wait and see what Sasuke can do with his newly acquired EMS before jumping to conclusions based on such limited evidence.
Both madara and the first hokage are promising to be one of the greatest battle in a flashback.
To say sasuke is on this level already is very confusing since all the hype kishi is setting up would be wasted. For example kishi is deliving the goods about the forth but for a long time we were saying the forth was epic and we didn't see him in action.You should do the same for madara and the first. Sasuke ofcoruse could become stronger and I hope it happens it will be great viewing. But he's not there yet lord no lol.
I probably should have worded that so6p stuff better.
The flashback on him I hope adds to the current era and not something that applies to characters who are already dead. Something like that is better suited as a movie or gaiden.
Last edited by psukkar; 07-17-2010 at 06:33 PM.
Definitely Rock Lee. He needs another epic fight....and I think he deserves a legit win for once. Why does Kishi constantly slap him in the face?
*Waiting for Hand Banana to post Ten Ten*
I'm right so if you have another opinion about anything you're wrong!! ...Well unless you said Karin would live or Sasuke will take Itachi's eyes lol!
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