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Indeed that has been the thinking but maybe this could be a bit exaggerated as well. Yea they may enjoy blowing thing up as well but the Bijuu could also be territorial and respond to mankind encroching on what they deem their land.
As the mythos surrounding them is sort of vague only stating the bijuu would appear randomly. So the details are lost in the fog so to speak....
Here is what the databook says:
Credit: Translation by Shounensuki
Ninja Information File - Bijuu (尾獣, "Tailed Beasts")
Do they come about through the "Wrath of Heaven" or "Human Malice"!?
The mystery of the enigma-ridden "Bijuu" is revealed here.
Since time immemorial, their power has brought catastrophe to the world~~
The "Bijuu," including the "Kyuubi no Youko" sealed within the body of Naruto, are essentially demonic beasts whose sudden appearances were the turning points of entire eras and are considered natural disasters, like earthquakes or lightning. Their bodies are made up of vast amounts of chakra and their personalities are ferocious and cruel. When they begin to act violently, nothing can be done. Hitherto, there existence is a symbol of "menace".
There are altogether nine Bijuu known. The "Ichibi" has one tail, the "Nibi" has two tails; the amount of tails is indicated by their name. Once, the Shodai had some of them in his hold. As proof of treaties and pacts, he divided them among the other countries and so brought back the balance of power. In recent years, their have scattered all over the world. Their current whereabouts are only know to a few people.
Firstly I would say why does it have to be one or the other as far as Tobi's control. He can use both methods the carrot and the stick to get what he wants out of the Kyuubi.
Yes if the Kyuubi doesnt want to do something he can use his Sharingan control over it. However if the the Kyuubi wants to destroy Konoha anyways there is not much need to force it to do what it wants to do anyways.
The thing no one is considering is the desire of the Kyuubi itself as it is an intelligent self aware being. Tobi can utilize its own desires as form of control as well same as he does with Sasuke.
- As I said before the Bijuu where once roamed free as Top of the Food chain so to speak. The System of ninja villages ushered in by Hashrima and his ability to subdue the Bijuu is what created the Bijuu ---> Jinchuuriki frenzy that exists in the story today. Essentially the Bijuu are being exploited by the ninja villages in their quest for dominance and power over one another.
The Bijuu didn't volunteer to be used by the shinobi they are used against their will and infused in to small children. Why do you think the Hachibi would go wild in the Cloud village every chance it could. It was trying to break free and was forced back into submission by the 3rd Raikage and his elite shinobi.
The Bijuu are not domesticated pets they are intelligent beings that desire their own freedom but they have been caught up in the shinobi's desire for power.
- Lastly the idea that people where able to seal Bijuu before Hashrima seems doubtful as I said otherwise they would have already been Jinchuuriki before his time. However there is a more comprehensive reason why this is so....
The reason is simple Before Hashrima's time ninjas only worked in clans and those groups where small compared to a Ninja village which is composed of dozens of clans and thousands of shinobi. Out of all those shinobi per village how many S-class ninja do you see? At best maybe 2 - 5 S-class shinobi per village at any one time as their are exceptionally rare.
Why do you think Akatsuki an organization made up of all S-class shinobi operates by having them work in pairs to bring down and subdue Bijuu. Its because capturing and sealing Bijuu is not something just anyone can do its incredibly dangerous only S-class shinobi can really handle.
Small clans especially those without bloodlimits did not have the resources or enough of the high level shinobi to bring down a Bijuu. Its because of Hashrima's special powers that he was able to subdue the Bijuu and change the balance of power.
This is why the Bijuu remained free because the Shinboi before where unorganized only working in small groups. Once the ninja villages formed large number of shinobi's clans began working together helping each other develop and raise each other's skills. These villages helped produce a number of highly skilled shinobi which in turn can be used to deal with Bijuu.
Hence why I suspect the Kyuubi may want to destroy Konoha anyways for revenge of being imprisoned for so long and to ensure its freedom. As I said its a win win and Tobi being the master of manipulation knows how to play the angles. Its in the Kyuubi's interest to have Konoha destroyed as then thats one less ninja village trying to seal him up.
I just use deductive reasoning its not rocket science all you have to do is look at things from the Kyuubi's POV.
I'm sorry POW but this has gone on long enough!
Minato himself confirmed that the kyuubi's every move was being controlled:
I know Tobi can control the fox that is not the argument the point is the Kyuubi may also have a reason to want to destroy Konoha. Its intelligent enough to know that as long as Konoha exist they may try to seal him up.
During the actual conflict Tobi takes charge and controls the Kyuubi's actions yes. This doesn't mean the fox has no interest in wrecking the village for its own reasons thats my point.
And your forgetting one important thing, the Mangekyou control over the kyubi wouldn't last for good. It'll last as long as the genjutsu (Tsukuyomi) lasts. Which requires chakra for it to keep it going, the Mangekyou wielder is better off controlling the bijuu in intervals till the control wears off. All Madara/Tobi would have to do is take the kyubi to konoha, and let go of his control, the kyubi would've done what is in it's instinct, which is to go on a rampage and protect it self from the horde of shinobis who're trying to protect their village from it. Madara didn't have to control every single step of the kyubi, it all depends on how intense the battle is and how long it lasts.
Straight from the Dataook
The power sought in times of war
During the Ninja World Wars, people became fascinated by the idea of using the Bijuu's overwhelming powers as weapons... However, controlling that power wasn't easy. So to be able to manipulate that power, the Bijuu were sealed into people. Thus, the "Jinchuuriki" were born. Despite this, it seems that power still couldn't be truly controlled.
[picture of Naruto in his Four-Tailed state powering up his chakra blast]
→Each country has tried to use the power of the Jinchuuriki as a weapon.
The fact that even 3rd Raikage and a group elite group shinobi could barely contain the power of the 8 tails and that it wrecked the village in the battle is also fact.
If the an entire village made up of thousands of shinobi struggled to contain a Bijuu what chances would a small clan have.
Hence my point the Bijuu remained unchallenged for hundreds possibly thousands of years until Hashrima came around subdued them started the trend of Ninja villages and handed them out too the other villages.
The fact that the Bijuu want to be free is obvious is it not as the Kyuubi almost got his chance when Naruto went ape sht against Pain. The Hachibi went wild in the Cloud because it was trying to escape.
I'm merely point out that if they want their freedom its seems logical that destroying the people trying to contain their powers is part of their desires is that really such a wild idea?