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    Quote Originally Posted by Focht View Post
    I don't think he did anything I think it just did not show up.

    The souls of 4 previous Hokage are sealed inside the Death God's stomach for all eternity. Unless something breaks that seal they won't come out. Edo Tensei can summon souls, but it can't break the seal and there is nothing to suggest that it can.
    You're right.. Edo Tensei doesn't unlock a seal, it summons souls. But still;

    - that last coffin was summoned, so its hard to say that nobody was inside :S Thats the reason why lots of us are confused about it; is it 4th hokage or not??

    I still think that it was 4th Hokage, why? Orochimaru wanted to see how his former teacher and Hokage, Sarutobi ( known as the master of all jutsu ), was going to get KICKED by the previous Hokage's.. Orochimaru wanted to disgrace him in his own town with letting his ass whooped by 1,2 and 4 Hokage,.. all because Sarutobi didn't made him the 4th Hokage.

    there would be no other body that Oro would summon at that moment against Sarutobi. Orochimaru had probably planned to summon 1,2 and 4th because they were all considered as the strongest shinobi's from their time AND THE FACT that he wanted to play a devilish mind play with his former teacher... summoning the previous hokages for disgracing him in his own village.

    For whom would Sarutobi be so afraid for not getting summoned?? Yondaime was next generation and was probably stronger then Sarutobi in general. So when he saw 1 and 2, he thought okey.. but when he saw the last coffin ( assuming that it was 4 ) sarutobi was like; DAMN!! not him.. IF the 4TH hokage was summoned, sarutobi was gone in 10 sec with 1 and 2 next to Yondaime.

    conclusion; I personally think that it was 4th Hokage, but how he could do it is still a mysterie. Maybe we think that we know how Edo Tensei works, but we probably don't..
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    It may have been Orochimaru's intention to summon the 4th with Edo Tensai.. but it failed due to the soul residing within the Shinigami. Hiruzen assumed that He stopped it.. when in reality, it failed on its own.

    That is a theoretical possibility.
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    Or it could have not been the 4th Hokage at all. While it's a very reasonable assumption, it's not the ONLY other dead person that could be summoned. Besides, Edo Tensei requires preparation. If Orochimaru couldn't summon the 4th, he would've known before summoning the coffin to that location.

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    This falls into the we don't know how it works part. The assumption that Orochimaru wouldn't have tried to summon someone who he couldn't summon is a bad one. Keep in mind Orochimaru would have had no idea that there was a chance it could fail. All Orochimaru knew was that the 4th sacrificed himself to seal Kyuubi not the how it was done. This is given evidence by being rather horrified at the jutsu itself when he was the victim of it.

    So its entirely possible the 3rd thought he had stopped it when in fact it simply failed to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seke View Post
    Or it could have not been the 4th Hokage at all. While it's a very reasonable assumption, it's not the ONLY other dead person that could be summoned. Besides, Edo Tensei requires preparation. If Orochimaru couldn't summon the 4th, he would've known before summoning the coffin to that location.
    It's possibly it wasn't the 4th but Orochimarus intention was to shake Sarutobi emotionally by putting him against his teachers and remember that before Orochimaru attacked Konoha Sarutobi thought about the 4th frequently,Orochi most likely knew about how found 4th is to him so he might thought if he is going to summon first two hokages might as well summon the 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixa88 View Post
    It's possibly it wasn't the 4th but Orochimarus intention was to shake Sarutobi emotionally by putting him against his teachers and remember that before Orochimaru attacked Konoha Sarutobi thought about the 4th frequently,Orochi most likely knew about how found 4th is to him so he might thought if he is going to summon first two hokages might as well summon the 4th.
    I'm just saying it could've been any number of other dead people we don't know. Perhaps someone blood-related to Sarutobi, or a friend, or another mentor he had that wasn't the 1st or 2nd hokage.
    Who? It's irrelevant, as he never appeared and was never EVER referred to again.
    To me, the 3rd coffin was just a devide to show that Sarutobi even knew about the most secret jutsu, and even how to counter them. Whoever was inside is of no consequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aga bomBa View Post
    You're right.. Edo Tensei doesn't unlock a seal, it summons souls. But still;

    - that last coffin was summoned, so its hard to say that nobody was inside :S Thats the reason why lots of us are confused about it; is it 4th hokage or not??

    I still think that it was 4th Hokage, why? Orochimaru wanted to see how his former teacher and Hokage, Sarutobi ( known as the master of all jutsu ), was going to get KICKED by the previous Hokage's.. Orochimaru wanted to disgrace him in his own town with letting his ass whooped by 1,2 and 4 Hokage,.. all because Sarutobi didn't made him the 4th Hokage.

    there would be no other body that Oro would summon at that moment against Sarutobi. Orochimaru had probably planned to summon 1,2 and 4th because they were all considered as the strongest shinobi's from their time AND THE FACT that he wanted to play a devilish mind play with his former teacher... summoning the previous hokages for disgracing him in his own village.

    For whom would Sarutobi be so afraid for not getting summoned?? Yondaime was next generation and was probably stronger then Sarutobi in general. So when he saw 1 and 2, he thought okey.. but when he saw the last coffin ( assuming that it was 4 ) sarutobi was like; DAMN!! not him.. IF the 4TH hokage was summoned, sarutobi was gone in 10 sec with 1 and 2 next to Yondaime.

    conclusion; I personally think that it was 4th Hokage, but how he could do it is still a mysterie. Maybe we think that we know how Edo Tensei works, but we probably don't..
    The 4th Probably wouldn't even need to have his coffin open... he would have teleported out straight away.

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    >.>

    Kinda hard to 'teleport' when the seal necessary for its use is not applied to anything outside said coffin.
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    that's right.

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    Its kinda hard to teleport out if the coffin wasn't even summoned....

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