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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    No, they are dead, especially Bach, since humans don't live that long. The spirits also have bodies, blood, hearts and other organs, you know (in the FKT arc, Matsumoto lost a kidney for example). They also have mortal diseases (like Byakuya's wife). They also probably also have death from old age (technically the body becomes too weak to survive), since they obviously get older (although very slow).

    When Bach said that Uryu is the last living Quincy in the world, he might have meant the HM/Vandereich Empire, without counting the Living/Human World, or perhaps they really aren't true Quincy ?
    See this is one of the things that confuses me about this arc. The whole point of quincies were that they were HUMAN and MORTAL. They weren't spirits, they weren't their own catagory of spiritual power like shinigamies and hollows. They were people who developed spiritual powers like Don Kanoji. In my mind, if they(vandenreich) really are spiritual beings they really aren't true quincy--they're something new. It's not just a power set that makes a quincy, they also have to be human and mortal. Which maybe is really what Bach is getting at here and makes Ishida special. Maybe his humanity will give him some kind of edge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SquadZero View Post
    See this is one of the things that confuses me about this arc. The whole point of quincies were that they were HUMAN and MORTAL. They weren't spirits, they weren't their own catagory of spiritual power like shinigamies and hollows. They were people who developed spiritual powers like Don Kanoji. In my mind, if they(vandenreich) really are spiritual beings they really aren't true quincy--they're something new. It's not just a power set that makes a quincy, they also have to be human and mortal. Which maybe is really what Bach is getting at here and makes Ishida special. Maybe his humanity will give him some kind of edge?
    The first definition of Quincy we got from Urahara (one of the biggest liars in this series), is that they were like Ichigo and well, Ichigo is not a human, so yeah .

    Funny enough you can actually notice that some of the smart, scientists-like characters were actually always separating Quincy from Humans, Hollow and Shinigami (like Sayzel for example).

    In the first place, Quincy Powers don't give you soul perception. This means that this power was originally meant for something that didn't need it, like souls itself. It's not that Quincy are Humans with Soul Perception, it's that Humans with Soul Perception (SP) can be Quincy. That is why when Uryu lost his Quincy Power, he could still see Souls, Hollows, Shinigami, but when Ichigo lost his Power, he couldn't see anything nor feel anything anymore.

    It's quite interesting that SP comes along with Shinigami Powers, this might suggest that the first Shinigami were actually Living Humans.

    Bach himself is the Origin of the Quincy, but he himself might not be a Quincy, in similar manner as SK himself isn't a Shinigami... maybe , it does seem that way. Thus him calling Uryu the last Quincy would hold true even if he was still alive.


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