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    Quote Originally Posted by King Of Soul Society View Post
    @zero @pratesh ii think you are forgetting that the quincy can use the stolen bankai
    Yes and no, at least from what was showed up until now. From what was showed, they can use the "Baby Forms" and "Powers" but not their "Techniques", though Bach implied he could (so it might depend on Quincy's level), but seeing as he didn't do it, I guess he was only trying to aggravate Yamamoto.

    It's likely that the stolen Bankais are meant to be used in their "Fusion Holy Modes", seeing as they don't have access to the Bankai's advanced forms and techniques (it would be strange for the Sword Spirit to teach and show them how to do it, though they might be able to force them out, probably depends on Quincy's power).

    Regardless for what reason, the Quincy steal the:
    - Bankai (it's obviously shown),
    - Bankai's reiatsu (mentioned by Unohana),
    - the Sword Spirit (proved by the fact that Hitsugaya can no longer communicate with his Zanpakutou).

    In a way, they obtain special power and reiatsu generators, which for Quincy, who depends on surrounding energy, is a great boost in fighting potential, since they tend to have less spiritual power within themselves compared to Shinigami.

    It's also worth mentioning that the Shikai forms are left intact (for example Sasakibe's rapier form), but there is no longer any power in them (the spirit is stolen after all). In other words, they could be compared to remodeled Asauchi (though they likely no longer can become anything else).



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    Talking about Ichigo/ Ichigo's Boss Lady. Something is a little Whacked here. It would not surprise me at all if all along, she was a member of the Shiba Clan.

    So she hands Ichigo his Shinigami Substitute badge, the he Just Vanishes into thin Air. Any normal human would be bamboozooled by that. It's also kinda whacked that the Female Asauchi Assistant pops out of thin air and without checking things out or asking questions, she declares, "perfect timing" and zaps them back.

    Anyway i am hoping for many things from chapter 539, way too much to fit into one chapter I guess. I wanna see:-

    1) More, much more about the Soul king

    2) Aftermath of Zaraki Kenpachi vs (former) Zaraki Unohana.

    3) Grimjow and Urahara

    4) Ichigo Goes to Zero Division Monk, to learn how to properly meditate with his Zanpakutou

    5) What happened to Byakuya

    6) Giant One eared Dog.

    7) I guess it's too early to expect new Zangetsu to show his stuff.

    8) Somehow I don't really wanna see Uryuu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbee View Post
    Talking about Ichigo/ Ichigo's Boss Lady. Something is a little Whacked here. It would not surprise me at all if all along, she was a member of the Shiba Clan.

    So she hands Ichigo his Shinigami Substitute badge, the he Just Vanishes into thin Air. Any normal human would be bamboozooled by that. It's also kinda whacked that the Female Asauchi Assistant pops out of thin air and without checking things out or asking questions, she declares, "perfect timing" and zaps them back.

    Anyway i am hoping for many things from chapter 539, way too much to fit into one chapter I guess. I wanna see:-

    1) More, much more about the Soul king

    2) Aftermath of Zaraki Kenpachi vs (former) Zaraki Unohana.

    3) Grimjow and Urahara

    4) Ichigo Goes to Zero Division Monk, to learn how to properly meditate with his Zanpakutou

    5) What happened to Byakuya

    6) Giant One eared Dog.

    7) I guess it's too early to expect new Zangetsu to show his stuff.

    8) Somehow I don't really wanna see Uryuu.
    Nah, I'm pretty sure that the Zan-girl took only his soul and left his body lying there, after which she took his body to the nearest hospital/clinic (which is his house), only to notice that the father that Ichigo was calling out just a second ago isn't there, coming to conclusion that he was delirious... probably something like that , it might appear as a sketchy short story between chapters.

    1. I think that they will withhold any additional information about SK until Ichigo completes his training (though from the hot spring we know that SK favors Ichigo).

    2. Hmmmm, will this even be revealed before the next battle ?

    3. I wonder what was their deal, it had to be something about making him stronger, or was it a promise of a rematch between him and Ichigo ? If it was the first, how could Urahara do it ? Unless, he could use the same tool for Bankai training, so that Grimjow could master Secunda Etapa in 3 days :O... though it still wasn't confirmed what exactly it is...

    Speaking of transformations, could it be that the reason that Tousen exploded at the end was not because of what Aizen put in him (self destruct mechanism), but because of the mentioned, in the recent flashback, soul suicide because of the instability that comes from Hollowifing Shinigami ?

    4. There were hints? (like 5 or so ) that he is mainly H-t-H Combat specialist, though his prayer bids might still prove to be his Asauchi, only just in a different form (like the rest of the Zero Division).

    5. I'm not sure how well the hot spring treatment works, but I think he will not recover his lost arm/hand, plus the fact that he lost his Bankai, means the only thing that he is left with, is to train in Kidou, as well as train Rukia.

    6. The cave reminds me a little of the pits in which they once threw criminals to battle imprisoned hollowes there... still, I must admit it is an interesting development for Komamura (and perhaps for Yoruichi ?).

    7. I think that it still will be just a black sword, so what I'm more interested in is the new Baboon King Zabimaru , perhaps it's going to be a Hydra, or maybe more like a real armor this time ?

    8. For a moment there I thought that Uryuu fought Rukia at least battle, since it wasn't shown who owned her... nah, can't be . We probably won't see Uryuu quickly, unless Kubo wants to show the Quincy side a bit more to the readers (theoretically they also should be just...).

    I'm interested in the name of Zaraki's shikai and what it does, an additional explanation to what Unohana's Bankai does would have been nice...

    Now that I look at their trainings, shouldn't they also force every Shinigami with a Shikia, to try Urahara's 3 Day Bankai Training ? It's not like with only their shikai they could do something to Quincy anyway (not counting Zaraki).

    I hope it is finally the time for Yoruichi to take the Heavenly Battle Cloth or whatever it is called that is the main reason for the Shihon clan to exist (in order to protect it and other heavenly tools).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero View Post
    Nah, I'm pretty sure that the Zan-girl took only his soul and left his body lying there, after which she took his body to the nearest hospital/clinic (which is his house), only to notice that the father that Ichigo was calling out just a second ago isn't there, coming to conclusion that he was delirious... probably something like that , it might appear as a sketchy short story between chapters.
    1. I think that they will withhold any additional information about SK until Ichigo completes his training (though from the hot spring we know that SK favors Ichigo).

    Probably True

    2. Hmmmm, will this even be revealed before the next battle ?

    They should, we should be told whether Unohana survives or not, Heaven knows they need all the Swords they can get. Also we need to know how 4th division reacts to Unohana's loss.

    3. I wonder what was their deal, it had to be something about making him stronger, or was it a promise of a rematch between him and Ichigo ? If it was the first, how could Urahara do it ? Unless, he could use the same tool for Bankai training, so that Grimjow could master Secunda Etapa in 3 days :O... though it still wasn't confirmed what exactly it is...

    Speaking of transformations, could it be that the reason that Tousen exploded at the end was not because of what Aizen put in him (self destruct mechanism), but because of the mentioned, in the recent flashback, soul suicide because of the instability that comes from Hollowifing Shinigami ?

    I thought Aizen Flash step-Killed Tousen.

    4. There were hints? (like 5 or so ) that he is mainly H-t-H Combat specialist, though his prayer bids might still prove to be his Asauchi, only just in a different form (like the rest of the Zero Division).

    Each Zero div. Captain invented something Unique. Hand to Hand combat is NOT unique and was not invented by the Monk, I am sure.

    5. I'm not sure how well the hot spring treatment works, but I think he will not recover his lost arm/hand, plus the fact that he lost his Bankai, means the only thing that he is left with, is to train in Kidou, as well as train Rukia.

    Byakuya would be ideal to be Re-Asauchi'd he definitely has a lot or reiatsu. I don't see much difference between having your Bankai destroyed (Ichigo) and having your Bankai stollen.

    6. The cave reminds me a little of the pits in which they once threw criminals to battle imprisoned hollowes there... still, I must admit it is an interesting development for Komamura (and perhaps for Yoruichi ?).

    Yeah would be interesting to learn the Whole Shihoin Story.

    7. I think that it still will be just a black sword, so what I'm more interested in is the new Baboon King Zabimaru , perhaps it's going to be a Hydra, or maybe more like a real armor this time ?

    I don't mean just the appearance alone, Ichigo is at peace with his Quincy powers now, how would Zangetsu reflect that?

    8. For a moment there I thought that Uryuu fought Rukia at least battle, since it wasn't shown who owned her... nah, can't be . We probably won't see Uryuu quickly, unless Kubo wants to show the Quincy side a bit more to the readers (theoretically they also should be just...).

    Uryuu = Boring

    I'm interested in the name of Zaraki's shikai and what it does, an additional explanation to what Unohana's Bankai does would have been nice...

    Now that I look at their trainings, shouldn't they also force every Shinigami with a Shikia, to try Urahara's 3 Day Bankai Training ? It's not like with only their shikai they could do something to Quincy anyway (not counting Zaraki).

    I hope it is finally the time for Yoruichi to take the Heavenly Battle Cloth or whatever it is called that is the main reason for the Shihon clan to exist (in order to protect it and other heavenly tools).

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    No bleach this week?

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    @chaosmaster there is bleach this week and @paulbee i feel we will be left with a cliff-hanger concerning zangetsu

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