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    Q: is kabutomaru controlling action of all the ppl he summond like ever puch, kick, block, jutsu they use ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankai View Post
    Q: is kabutomaru controlling action of all the ppl he summond like ever puch, kick, block, jutsu they use ???
    No.

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    Why isn't he controlling them via punch, kick, block etc?

    He has those goddamned stones. I bet there is a complex process to exactly order them on what to do. Or maybe a mental command.

    You can't say exactly say "no," when its unsure.

    My own little question.

    What was the limit to the Sage of the 6 Path's Izanagi power?

    Juubi had inhumane power, and if the Sage was smart enough humans wouldn't be able to control it properly even with separating. Now, why didn't he just eliminate the Juubi entirely? Delete it from existence, perhaps the world of Naruto would have more peace. The Sage had much power to make the Juubi's body into the damned moon - in his deathbed.

    With all that power why not use Izanagi to erase the juubi completely? What was his mentality to separate the beasts? Why weaken the Juubi's powers when you can just erase the goddamned thing with the broken Izanagi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobirama Senju View Post
    Why isn't he controlling them via punch, kick, block etc?

    He has those goddamned stones. I bet there is a complex process to exactly order them on what to do. Or maybe a mental command.

    You can't say exactly say "no," when its unsure.

    My own little question.

    What was the limit to the Sage of the 6 Path's Izanagi power?

    Juubi had inhumane power, and if the Sage was smart enough humans wouldn't be able to control it properly even with separating. Now, why didn't he just eliminate the Juubi entirely? Delete it from existence, perhaps the world of Naruto would have more peace. The Sage had much power to make the Juubi's body into the damned moon - in his deathbed.

    With all that power why not use Izanagi to erase the juubi completely? What was his mentality to separate the beasts? Why weaken the Juubi's powers when you can just erase the goddamned thing with the broken Izanagi?
    jesus...

    juubi isn't just a monster. juubi is the hate, the evil. you can't kill that with a jutsu. you need something more that even the sage didn't had, something that he taught that his younger son had.

    when you read naruto, you read just word by word?

    take an advice, enjoy greatness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobirama Senju View Post
    Why isn't he controlling them via punch, kick, block etc?

    He has those goddamned stones. I bet there is a complex process to exactly order them on what to do. Or maybe a mental command.

    You can't say exactly say "no," when its unsure.
    It doesn't merit much thinking, but I'll give it to you anyway. No matter how good he is at controlling that many pawns, he isn't controlling basic movements like punches and kicks. There's too much evidence to the contrary when the clones announce their own timing on attacks, fight using their own fighting styles, and quite frankly betray Kabuto as often as not. The Kin Gin bros would have done better if Kabuto HAD been controlling them fully, since they basically killed themselves by dying like morons to their own weapons. Hanzou committed suicide. Kabuto himself would never have made Haku defend Zabuza by jumping in front of Kakashi's Chidori; what is the purpose, sacrificing one pawn for another, when they regenerate anyway?

    Kabuto is able to seize complete control and use specific abilities when he wants; Itachi being held in reserve for his Genjutsu is a strong example of this. Kabuto can also stop his pawns from moving entirely, or force them to move in a certain way, as when he forced the Edo Tsuchikage to summon the other Edo Kages. He can turn them into mindless killing machines like Zabuza and Haku, but all that means is they no longer have human thoughts or emotions, and focus entirely on killing. They still stick to their own fighting styles.

    Asuma was under complete control in the sense that he had to fight his students even while yelling at them to defeat him. Kabuto could have shut him up, but he wanted to let Asuma talk to use the enemy's compassion as a weakness. But that doesn't mean Kabuto literally was deciding when Asuma would jump, block, kick, etc. It's not that specific.

    Edo clones have their own will and souls, Kabuto merely enslaves them. They do his bidding, simple as that. It's not like Sasori's puppets, or Nagato's paths, which have no souls, no minds, and no chakra of their own. Kabuto tells his puppets to kill, and they decide how best to accomplish this. Remember, he only revived the best of the best with his technique; they know their own fighting styles better than he does, and as long as they remain loyal, there's no need to control exactly how they fight. Unless, like Itachi and Nagato, they are being held back as trump cards.

    Again, the issue is not whether Kabuto can control minor movements such as punches and kicks; he obviously can. That doesn't mean he is, and every one of the fights suggests he is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rinnebadass View Post
    jesus...

    juubi isn't just a monster. juubi is the hate, the evil. you can't kill that with a jutsu. you need something more that even the sage didn't had, something that he taught that his younger son had.

    when you read naruto, you read just word by word?

    take an advice, enjoy greatness.
    Don't jump into conclusions, that the Juubi is just hate and evil. Wth is a beast like the Juubi doing in the world? What the hell was it doing before the Sage came to magically stop everything? I am assuming it was going on rampages and it should have stomped the entire world.

    Juubi is a monster. Its sentient, conscious, and probably has a mind of its own.

    Alright say you can't entirely destroy the evil itself, why not seal it into a separate dimension? Isolate the damned thing, and everyone's happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rlinfamous View Post
    It doesn't merit much thinking, but I'll give it to you anyway. No matter how good he is at controlling that many pawns, he isn't controlling basic movements like punches and kicks. There's too much evidence to the contrary when the clones announce their own timing on attacks, fight using their own fighting styles, and quite frankly betray Kabuto as often as not. The Kin Gin bros would have done better if Kabuto HAD been controlling them fully, since they basically killed themselves by dying like morons to their own weapons. Hanzou committed suicide. Kabuto himself would never have made Haku defend Zabuza by jumping in front of Kakashi's Chidori; what is the purpose, sacrificing one pawn for another, when they regenerate anyway?

    Kabuto is able to seize complete control and use specific abilities when he wants; Itachi being held in reserve for his Genjutsu is a strong example of this. Kabuto can also stop his pawns from moving entirely, or force them to move in a certain way, as when he forced the Edo Tsuchikage to summon the other Edo Kages. He can turn them into mindless killing machines like Zabuza and Haku, but all that means is they no longer have human thoughts or emotions, and focus entirely on killing. They still stick to their own fighting styles.

    Asuma was under complete control in the sense that he had to fight his students even while yelling at them to defeat him. Kabuto could have shut him up, but he wanted to let Asuma talk to use the enemy's compassion as a weakness. But that doesn't mean Kabuto literally was deciding when Asuma would jump, block, kick, etc. It's not that specific.

    Edo clones have their own will and souls, Kabuto merely enslaves them. They do his bidding, simple as that. It's not like Sasori's puppets, or Nagato's paths, which have no souls, no minds, and no chakra of their own. Kabuto tells his puppets to kill, and they decide how best to accomplish this. Remember, he only revived the best of the best with his technique; they know their own fighting styles better than he does, and as long as they remain loyal, there's no need to control exactly how they fight. Unless, like Itachi and Nagato, they are being held back as trump cards.

    Again, the issue is not whether Kabuto can control minor movements such as punches and kicks; he obviously can. That doesn't mean he is, and every one of the fights suggests he is not.
    Then what purpose does the stones serve? Apparently he can move the stones, and the resurrected moves as well.

    Other then that, you won the argument.

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    Does Edo Itachi still have poor eyesight? Considering Edo Nagato still has major mobility problems, it only makes sense that Itachi would stillbe nearly blind.

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    I once theorised that Naruto could protect himself from Amaterasu by using a continuously renewing Kyuubi Cloak. Now that he no longer has a Cloak (unless he learns to create one) the question remains pertinent. The fight between Naruto and Sasuke draws ever closer. How shal Naruto fend off an Amaterasu attack. Obviously, the SO6P's Younger Son must have had a way to fend off Amaterasu from the Older Son.

    Past Amaterasu Survivors:

    1) Madara...We still don't know how he did it, but we know that his body is artificial and that he can grow new parts.
    2) Raikage...He used speed to avoid Amaterasu attacks, but had to cut off his own arm when he got hit.
    3) Gaara....He used his sand to form a sheild
    4) Jiraiya's Fire Toad....Had a hole blow right through it, Jiraiya was able to seal the rest of the flames.

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    since when can izanagi erase beings out of existence? lol... it can only negate attacks and deaths, it also holds the power to create apparently...wiping things out of existence is more kamui's thing.

    also, my question: just how powerful is this new kyuubi mode naruto has attained?

    when he entered the three-tailed cloak while fighting orochimaru, a simple yell created a powerful shockwave which damaged his surrouindings like the bridge.. look how powerful the kyuubi-mode was against pain during its' 6-tailed to eight-tailed level.. whioch seemed to surpass even the sage-mode.

    now that naruto has achieved complete control over the kyuubi chakra; does he still have access to all this power!? o.O

    if so... i think he has little to worry about, from the raikage... >:]
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