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Last edited by Trigunflame; 01-03-2010 at 05:44 AM.
Interesting post but I think what makes Sasuke and Kimimaru suitable containers is more their potential to become S-class shinobi thus being able to withstand all of Orochimaru's life force essence.
I mean think about it Orochimaru is one of the most powerful shinobi in the Narutoverse in order to contain that massive power he needs a body that can keep up. The weaker bodies Orochimaru was forced to take could sustain him for short while but they where too small for his massive life force essence thus he burnt out at times when pushing himself to far.
A rough analogy would be trying to fit 55 gallons of water in a stretchable container that was meant to hold 40 gallons. Add in motion and under that much extra stress the container would likely break.
The other back up bodies where strong people but not S-class potential shinobi capable of holding all his power thus limiting his capacity somewhat due to strain placed on the body.
I really don't think that Orochimaru would be so desperate to get Sasuke's body if it were only useful to him for a 3 year period. Orochimaru's main reason for wanting Sasuke was because of his excellent sharingan, the same reason he wanted Itachi's. So that he can learn all the techniques in the world as quickly as possible, if he only got it for 3 years it wouldn't be very efficient. If that were the case he would be far better off just taking the sharingan like Kakashi or Danzou. Of course Orochimaru knows that the body of an Uchiha is the best way to use a sharingan but if the body were only good for 3 years then the effort he put into obtaining it seems like far too great a cost. If he just took the sharingan itself he could copy techniques for as long as he wants without needing to worry about a short expiry date.
Orochimaru's reason for wanting an immortal body and wanting the sharingan are similar. He wants to learn every technique in existence to do that he needs an immortal body to live long enough to locate every technique. With the sharingan he can learn them extremely quickly and efficiently. I really doubt that having the sharingan for 3 years would be enough for him. Even look at someone like Kakashi who has had the sharingan for well over a decade, now 1000 techniques is a lot but Orochimaru talks about wanting to learn tens of thousands, 3 years wouldn't cut it.
Here Orochimaru says that he is waiting for Sasuke to grow up more to his tastes. Obviously he is in no hurry to obtain Sasuke's body at this point. He says plainly that he is waiting for Sasuke to grow up that would seem odd if he truly needed to change bodies every 3 years. Orochimaru only starts to persue Sasuke again when he realizes that Tsunade will not help him replace his arms, hence he needs to change bodies as quickly as possible.
Sasuke wasn't just any body, he was supposed to be the body, the one that Orochimaru would live out his future in. All of Orochimaru's comments and efforts leading up to obtaining Sasuke make the idea of it only being a 3 year deal seem totally absurd. If the 3 year limit were true for Sasuke's body, then honestly it is really bad writing.
Orochimaru's body is the body of white snakes thus he is able to reform himself to some degree even without the substitution. On mutiple occasions Orochimaru takes hits that would kill normal people but his body recovers even without using the replacement. Sasuke obtained Orochimaru's techniques and gained benefits from Orochimaru's white snake body but he did not obtain the body itself.
After he realized he couldn't get Itachi, it would make sense that Orochimaru would go for Kimimaro who was the only one powerful enough to survive the destruction of his own clan, he too was a proven super genious just of a different type. Sasuke on the other hand didn't really seem like he was of the same calibur at first, Orochimaru needed to look deeper, hence his appearance at the Chuunin exams and the way he tested Sasuke. Kimimaro seemed far superior as a host at that time, that is mentioned by the sound 4 aswell. Only after Kimimaro was found to be sick and thus unsuitable did Orochimaru turn his gaze to Sasuke who was finally starting to show signs of being a worthy candidate and obviously his relation to Itachi would be enough to inspire Orochimaru's attention.
Under normal circumstances, if the ritual is performed correctly I don't think that there is much of a risk of the body rejecting him. He had lost the ability to use all of his jutsu because his arms were sealed, so it seems natural to me that the process wouldn't go over as smoothly as normal. If Orochimaru had to go through a period of sever weakness every 3 years that would be a massive risk that would really weigh heavy against the benefits.
I think that in the past Orochimaru switched bodies every 3 year because he wanted to, not because he had to. I just can't picture Orochimaru needing to go through what he did with Genyumaru everytime he wants to do a switch, if that were the case then his enemies would just need to wait 3 years and then take him down easy, I don't see Orochimaru taking that kind of risk.
Last edited by artifice; 01-03-2010 at 11:21 AM.
Well its possible but Orochimaru's goal was to get the perfect body and in order to obtain that he had to take calculated risks. I don't think his lesser bodies would give out on him on day 2 but there was always the possibility that a body could reject him after a long exposure to his massive life force after so many years depending on how he used it.
Maybe its sort of like the way the MS causes blindness the more you use it. As this may also explain why he spent all his time hiding out because he didn't want to get into constant fights and put unnecessary strain on his lesser body.
Also remember he had Kabuto with him whos expertise in medical ninjutsu and drugs could help him like he did when his 3rd body began to fail as he was taking medication.
So yea I would say the 3 years may be a general timeline for the rejection of the lesser body but it was not exact as it may last slightly longer or if he pushed himself in constant fighting his body might start to reject him early so it was a calculated risk.
Cause remember the fight with Sarutobi he was using the 1st and 2nd Hokage to do most of the fighting rather than his own body and stated he was going to take Sasuke once he grew up more to his liking.
Last edited by POW; 01-03-2010 at 02:47 PM.