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    Quote Originally Posted by ·Rokudaime Sennin· ™ View Post
    Naruto is a senju, it'd be foolish if he wasn't. To have Madara/Hashirama/Itachi/Sasuke all share the blood of Rikudou Sennin and yet have Naruto excluded from that just wouldn't make sense. Sure Naruto doesn't have to be a senju, and the story still works, he's a senju at heart, but there's more to it than that, he has Rikudou's blood in him. Naruto's prolly the only kyubi jinchuriki ever and it's been said that he has a special chakra, and prolly one of a select few who could even withstand the kyubi's chakra, an indication that he's got Rikudou's blood.
    Naruto doesn't have to be Senju to have Rikudou Sennin's blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ·Rokudaime Sennin· ™ View Post
    Naruto is a senju, it'd be foolish if he wasn't. To have Madara/Hashirama/Itachi/Sasuke all share the blood of Rikudou Sennin and yet have Naruto excluded from that just wouldn't make sense. Sure Naruto doesn't have to be a senju, and the story still works, he's a senju at heart, but there's more to it than that, he has Rikudou's blood in him. Naruto's prolly the only kyubi jinchuriki ever and it's been said that he has a special chakra, and prolly one of a select few who could even withstand the kyubi's chakra, an indication that he's got Rikudou's blood.
    Everyone in Konoha is a senju at heart because they all follow the 1st's teachings so what exactly are you trying to say?

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    Keep in mind when we're talking about Senju, we're talking about the immediate blood relations of the Hashirama, not some philosophical "heirs", or the descendants of the "younger brother".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuroihikari View Post
    It says something about Naruto having characteristics of the Senju, but nowhere is it stated that he is.


    first you say the page says absolutely nothing about naruto being senju then you say this,

    make up your mind, no it's not stated, your supposd to figure out by yourself, that's the conclusion i came up with, how you interperate it is your choice,

    ''the fire of the senju dwells inside of you'', wtf is that supposed to mean >.>, and he is reffering to the 1st hokage living on in naruto >.<, thats more than just saying naruto has the characteristict of the senju, but anyway thats how i see it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand Banana View Post
    Everyone in Konoha is a senju at heart because they all follow the 1st's teachings so what exactly are you trying to say?
    Nah,Hand Banana you're missing something. He meant the will of fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merciless View Post
    first you say the page says absolutely nothing about naruto being senju then you say this,

    make up your mind, no it's not stated, your supposed to figure out by yourself, that's the conclusion i came up with, how you interpret it is your choice,

    ''the fire of the senju dwells inside of you'', wtf is that supposed to mean >.>, and he is referring to the 1st hokage living on in naruto >.<, thats more than just saying naruto has the characteristic of the senju, but anyway thats how i see it,
    Man this is why I despise Kishi from using metaphors in his manga. He is probably the only maga artist to over use metaphors.

    Quote Originally Posted by amma2006 View Post
    Nah,Hand Banana you're missing something. he meant the will of fire.
    The will of fire is the 1st's teaching... I'm just gonna stay outta this thread for a month or so. I miss the old days a lot. From 07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuroihikari View Post
    Naruto doesn't have to be Senju to have Rikudou Sennin's blood.
    wait what? can you think about what you just said.

    Kishi likes to work with parallels, the elder brother and the younger brother, Madara/Hashirama, why would Sasuke/Naruto be any different? The descendants of the elder brother became the uchiha and the descendants of the younger became the senju. If I understand you correctly you're implying that Naruto can still be a descendant of Rikudou and the younger brother without being a senju? Meaning there would've been another lineage from the younger brother who weren't senju? Sure that's possible, but that still doesn't detract from the fact that Naruto is most likely a senju and there's no need to bring up another clan with lineage from the younger brother unless they were part of that eternal struggle, that cycle of hatred brought on by Rikudou's choice and the elder brother's actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by kuroihikari View Post
    Keep in mind when we're talking about Senju, we're talking about the immediate blood relations of the Hashirama, not some philosophical "heirs", or the descendants of the "younger brother".
    Uh, I never said that Naruto has to be closely related to Hashirama, not at all. Hashirama is one of the senjus as Madara/Sasuke are one of the uchihas yet not so closely related.

    The manga clearly refers to the descendants of the younger brother as the Senjus. That's what I'm talking about when I say Naruto is a Senju
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    So since Naruto shares some characteristics reminscent of Uchiha Obito, does it make Naruto an Uchiha??? No. Having some things in common with the 1st doesn't make Naruto a Senju by blood. Madara sees the Will of Fire in Naruto. That is the fire of the Senju, the thing that the 1st left behind for all of Konoha to inherit.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand Banana View Post
    Man this is why I despise Kishi from using metaphors in his manga. He is probably the only maga artist to over use metaphors.



    The will of fire is the 1st's teaching... I'm just gonna stay outta this thread for a month or so. I miss the old days a lot. From 07.


    well i guess thats one of the reasons there are so many discussions and arguments in the naruto forum, the guy never makes anything clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by ·Rokudaime Sennin· ™ View Post
    wait what? can you think about what you just said.

    Kishi likes to work with parallels, the elder brother and the younger brother, Madara/Hashirama, why would Sasuke/Naruto be any different? The descendants of the elder brother became the uchiha and the descendants of the younger became the senju. If I understand you correctly you're implying that Naruto can still be a descendant of Rikudou and the younger brother without being a senju? Meaning there would've been another lineage from the younger brother who weren't senju? Sure that's possible, but that still doesn't detract from the fact that Naruto is most likely a senju and there's no need to bring up another clan with lineage from the younger brother unless they were part of that eternal struggle, that cycle of hatred brought on by Rikudou's choice and the elder brother's actions.
    You read that out of context.

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