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    Theorys about bleach

    these are some old post of mine at mangahelpers discussion about bleach

    i'd like to share them, because they're quite interesting

    My theory:



    Shirosaki is his INSTINCT which has turned into a living form, which ichigo needs to get a control of to become his ultimate "himself"..


    in other words, when people got their soul chain cut off, they're instinct turns into a soul linked being with the original soul of the human, but only if the human finds his shinigami powers. the hollow is in other words the "evil" side of ichigo, which i don't really find interesting to use in bleach, we have not yet seen shirosaki making comment on like destroying everything. he just wants to take over the soul to become the ultimate himself, since he misses the human part that ichigo has. and by shirosaki's words, he said you can use my powers until i find a chance to crush your skull (because he now is cornered into the edge of the soul and has less ways to take over until ichigo is near death probably).

    as for the vaizards, they used techniques to artificially surpress theyre souls into transforming slowly into a hollow, but they had the power to resist that, so the hollow is in the same position as shirosaki, but in my theory.. i think their inner hollows are different to shirosaki, since shinigami are dead human.. they don't posses the instincts they had as a human anymore, their instincts of when they were living beings has dissapeared, and thus making it easyer to handle their inner hollows, since they didnt understand why it took so long for ichigo to master just 11 seconds.. so in other words .. vaizards don't have to deal with the instict that shirosaki has..

    A human posseses instincts like a animal, since practically humans are highly evolved animals.. because instinct is the nature of any living being. which hollows and shinigami's obviously do have but it's different from living beings. this also explains why ichigo learns so fast in some sorta way. let me explain this.. humans and animals have a part of their instinct which allows them to evolve and adjust theyre conditions by experiences, but due the fact humans have developed their own thoughts above their instincts while evolving, they now miss the ability of instincts since they adjust themselves by thinking how to change..

    but.. ichigo was somewhat of a special person which had the adjustment instinct running at full power.. but, didn't had his natural killing instincts even running a little bit.. which he now seems to be taking control over since he actually is controlling shirosaki which i think is his battle instinct..

    (the adjustment instinct adjusts his powers and reactions with any fighting experience).. just like animals do..

    if you look at it this way.. you can definetly see why aizen wants ichigo on his side, or perhaps dead.. because ichigo is becoming the ultimate entity too fast.

    that's it lol, sorry if some sentences were confusing.


    EDIT: the instincts of adjustment like i wrote about, is what i think, the hollows and shinigamis dont have anymore since they died as humans and lost that part of instinct, only the battle instinct remains in theyre soul

    EDIT: shirosaki is trying to take over ichigo's soul because normally, who wouldn't want to take over the one in lead and just like animals battle their own group for the lead of the territory, ichigo and shirosaki battle to take over the lead theyre territory AKA the soul.
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    i now have another theory based on this..

    Shinigami represent a part of the instinct which actually is fighting..

    Hollows represent the instinct of survival..

    Human represent the insticts of adjustment by experiences..

    if a human is able to get its hands on shinigami powers like ichigo.. then the effect is a shinigami which's powers raise dramatically fast.. because of the fighting and adjustment instincts.. for example look at the short time that ichigo got this powerfull.

    however..

    if a hollow get's it's hands on shinigami powers/or they are maintaining powers growing to shinigami powers like the arrancar.. then their survival and fighting instict raises to dramatically hights as you take the espada as an example.. this also counts for shinigami that obtain hollow powers

    but..

    if a human maintains both shinigami and hollow powers.. then the three instincts combine and make it the ultimate being..
    next is from another thread in the bleach section about uruhara's bankai
    it fills in a bit with the other two

    Quote Originally Posted by gin0va View Post
    yami is pretty weak actually, because he's a bigmouthed dumbass, his powers might be great, but he lacks "BRAIN", but i guess he became an espada because he would probably be hard to beat when he goes berserk...

    also

    yami's cero didnt seem really powerfull... look at hollow ichigo that went berserk on the outside, while fighting the vaizards there, if you look at that cero, it had tremendous POWER, imagine hollow ichigo if he was consious back than, it would've be even with King Cero of maybe probably ulquiorra or so, and look at hollow ichigo his getsuga tenshou, he was very calm about it and BOOOOM a getsuga tenshou which was 100x bigger than ichigo's getsuga tenshou...

    looking at this, yami is just a mouse compared to hollow ichigo...

    but... look at those arrancars, they don't have any shinigami powers, they just became more human, they don't have the danger of degradation of their current hollow levels, so they don't need to eath any hollows anymore, they raise their powers just like shinigami do atm.. by experience. arrancars just seal their full powers into a zanpakutou formed weapon... they do not have full shinigami powers yet, like hollow ichigo has, with near shinigami powers they're strong as hell, imagine them reaching real shinigami powers, then you would have a second hollow ichigo..(by power)

    but by personality, hollow ichigo would be superior, he just made a stupid mistake getting himself surprised and cornered by ichigo..

    aizen doesn't have the personality to keep on going, like ichigo and hollow ichigo have.. hollow ichigo doesn't let anyone play boss over him, but he just made one stupid mistake, costing him being horse again..

    now combine his personality with ichigo his personality, than there is small chance of beating ichigo, aizen is just a calm killer who doesnt give a SHIT about anyone, hollow ichigo is a ruthless killer who surely respects others, unlike aizen, but has the personality of a real murderer who won't let anyone take him down, ichigo can't give up because he doesn't want to fail the world..

    at my point of view, hollow ichigo and ichigo combined is just the best personality to have in combat, to survive..
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    interesting theory on vizards and inner hollows. i guess we wont know what is normal for a vizard until we find out in manga. it is kind of strange though how ichigo with his strong determination to not use his hollow at the beginning was only able 2 use hollow mask for 11 seconds when he surpressed his hollow and that 1 girl was able to stay in hollow form for 15 hours when she started.


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    i thought that vizards were shinigami that were called the mask soldier,, and vizard have to deal with there inner hollow, ichigo can only hold his mask for 11 seconds cause he is weak and does not what to kill are he would of killed grimmjow are at least let noitroa kill him,,i think all shinigami have inner hollows but there zanpukto is stronger then there inner hollow and keeping the from causing problems,, but i think that ichigo and the other vizard zanpukto let there inner hollow out at one time and the inner hollow just kept getting stronger until they have a inner battle to see who will rule
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    Ichigo just has problems keeping his mask on, if you ask me. : /

    I think Ichigo gets all his spirit power because he was born half human half shinigami (Ichigo's dad is a shinigami).

    I'm not sure about the whole losing instinct thing. Instinct, if you ask me, is a person's reaction to people,things and emotions. Good theories anyways.
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    Hmm maybe this whole inner hollow doesn't exist. Ichigo's White form says he is Zangetsu and when Zangetsu was teaching Ichigo about himself he brought forth his White side to fight Ichigo and forced him to return back inside him. Also getsuga tenshō was his Shikai's ability but Ichigo's whites side used a black version of it in bankai form. Ichigo has been mimicking the move, but it caused strain on his body as stated by Grimmjow. This also furthers my theory because everytime Ichigo used Kuroi Getsuga Tenshō his White side tends to come out more often. Has anyone else noticed that Zangetsu hasn't come out as much or relatively stopped talking to Ichigo after the Rescue Rukia Arc?

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    GAI SENSEI 4 HOKAGE bankai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by uchihaclan View Post
    Hmm maybe this whole inner hollow doesn't exist. Ichigo's White form says he is Zangetsu and when Zangetsu was teaching Ichigo about himself he brought forth his White side to fight Ichigo and forced him to return back inside him. Also getsuga tenshō was his Shikai's ability but Ichigo's whites side used a black version of it in bankai form. Ichigo has been mimicking the move, but it caused strain on his body as stated by Grimmjow. This also furthers my theory because everytime Ichigo used Kuroi Getsuga Tenshō his White side tends to come out more often. Has anyone else noticed that Zangetsu hasn't come out as much or relatively stopped talking to Ichigo after the Rescue Rukia Arc?
    The whole inner hollow does exist cause when ichigo was done fighting the white ichigo,, the white ichigo ask to return and said to take care of him cause someday thats going to be my power someday he did not force him to return,, then zangetsu said i will lend you any power just to stop the rain, meaning zangetsu new about the inner hollow and was restraining him until he decided to use any power to help ichigo so the rain would stop
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    long, i think your reading to deeply. i just take them as they come for bleach

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