The 'That Jutsu' Thread

**Stev3child** · 01-19-2009, 11:17 PM

What you described was the effects of the Rasenshuriken if it hit an opponent. The move actually damages the muscle tissue of the user, thus making it dangerous to use.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/06/

That page speaks volumes about what sage mode can do. He fell from a very high distance, onto sharp spires and didnt get hurt, at all. Meaning the damage any normal human wouldve taken was voided due to sage mode. Even the frog remarks that your body is "activated" in many ways on the next page.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/

This page also sheds a little light on it. He needs to keep practicing in sage mode specifically which to me indicates that it is a jutsu that he couldnt do at one point, but now that he has sage mode he can accomplish that move without the ill effects.

**ydoc** · 01-20-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Steve3child

What you described was the effects of the Rasenshuriken if it hit an opponent. The move actually damages the muscle tissue of the user, thus making it dangerous to use.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/06/

That page speaks volumes about what sage mode can do. He fell from a very high distance, onto sharp spires and didnt get hurt, at all. Meaning the damage any normal human wouldve taken was voided due to sage mode. Even the frog remarks that your body is "activated" in many ways on the next page.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/

This page also sheds a little light on it. He needs to keep practicing in sage mode specifically which to me indicates that it is a jutsu that he couldnt do at one point, but now that he has sage mode he can accomplish that move without the ill effects.

Spoiler!

as you can see here tsunade explains that if naruto continues to use it he wont even be able to form chakra. its not muscel damage its dmg to his chakra system.

And she also explains just like i said the wind becomes like microscopic blades that cut at the cells and chakra links between the cells.

**thorofasgard13** · 01-20-2009, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by ydoc

Spoiler!

as you can see here tsunade explains that if naruto continues to use it he wont even be able to form chakra. its not muscel damage its dmg to his chakra system.

And she also explains just like i said the wind becomes like microscopic blades that cut at the cells and chakra links between the cells.

Any type of damage to the body is cellular damage! it's just that this attack destroys all the cells including the chakra lines making it pretty much impossible to heal. The Sage mode makes him nearly indestructible, so his new 'superman cells' can withstand the damage and if his cells are not damaged then the chakra conduits cannot be since they are inside his body and not outside of it.

**Stev3child** · 01-20-2009, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by ydoc

Spoiler!

as you can see here tsunade explains that if naruto continues to use it he wont even be able to form chakra. its not muscel damage its dmg to his chakra system.

And she also explains just like i said the wind becomes like microscopic blades that cut at the cells and chakra links between the cells.

So that's even more reason for sage mode to be used to protect his arm from it. The natural chakra can be used to shield his own cells from the harmfull effects from the jutsu. Or it could be something else.

I still think it is very plausible for sage mode to be a way to perfect the Rasengan since it shows Naruto being resistant to damage and no matter if it attacks on a molecular level, the natural chakra can be the fodder. Why cant friday come already!!!!!

**Hand Banana** · 01-20-2009, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by thorofasgard13

Any type of damage to the body is cellular damage! it's just that this attack destroys all the cells including the chakra lines making it pretty much impossible to heal. The Sage mode makes him nearly indestructible, so his new 'superman cells' can withstand the damage and if his cells are not damaged then the chakra conduits cannot be since they are inside his body and not outside of it.

I think he should of said molecular level instead of cellular.

**ydoc** · 01-20-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Steve3child

So that's even more reason for sage mode to be used to protect his arm from it. The natural chakra can be used to shield his own cells from the harmfull effects from the jutsu. Or it could be something else.

I still think it is very plausible for sage mode to be a way to perfect the Rasengan since it shows Naruto being resistant to damage and no matter if it attacks on a molecular level, the natural chakra can be the fodder. Why cant friday come already!!!!!

I am not even gonna argue this point anymore its pointless the evidence is infront of you, you just can not see it. the only way naruto is ever gonna use that move agains

1 life or death fight where he has no other options.
2 or throwing it.

**paulbee** · 01-20-2009, 06:39 PM

Ydoc, Steve3child..... Are you guys confusing Rasengan with Rasenshuriken ?

Originally Posted by Steve3child

So that's even more reason for sage mode to be used to protect his arm from it. The natural chakra can be used to shield his own cells from the harmfull effects from the jutsu. Or it could be something else.

I still think it is very plausible for sage mode to be a way to perfect the Rasengan since it shows Naruto being resistant to damage and no matter if it attacks on a molecular level, the natural chakra can be the fodder. Why cant friday come already!!!!!

**dragonfang** · 01-20-2009, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by ydoc

I am not even gonna argue this point anymore its pointless the evidence is infront of you, you just can not see it. the only way naruto is ever gonna use that move agains

1 life or death fight where he has no other options.
2 or throwing it.

i think it wil be the move to stop sasuke not killing him but destroying his chakra system , and naruto's arm

**Stev3child** · 01-20-2009, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by ydoc

I am not even gonna argue this point anymore its pointless the evidence is infront of you, you just can not see it. the only way naruto is ever gonna use that move agains

1 life or death fight where he has no other options.
2 or throwing it.

The evidence can be made into an argument. It doesnt confirm anything especially relating to your theory. I said that sage mode would counteract the ill effects of the rasenshuriken because the Natural chakra and the sage mode itself protects the body(which includes the cells) as evidenced by the pages i provided. Also we see a shot of Naruto training and saying he needs to practice that move in sage mode. All the evidence points to the Rasenshuriken. shurikens are supposed to be thrown anyway. The way Naruto used it against Kakuzu was incomplete and not the intended form of the move. throwing it while having the protection of sage mode is logical and effective and imo the reason he needed sage mode. which is also why he had to train with it in secret since noone wanted him to use it.