UM excuse me we can fish all we want thats the point of the thread LOL
and no the creeps will not join and if you were talking to me i have said all along it will not be jimbi
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UM excuse me we can fish all we want thats the point of the thread LOL
and no the creeps will not join and if you were talking to me i have said all along it will not be jimbi
Yeah if your throwing sh*t at the wall it sounds right, but that could be said about Perona,Boa,Jimbei and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flare Blitz
You said there are plenty of reasons for a fishman to join but so far those haven't even appeared yet. As of right now in the story, there are more reasons for a fishman not to join than anything, story wise.
Here are a few straight to the point reasons why fishman won't join.
-It's so freaking predictable it's not even funny, especially for someone of Oda's caliber.
-Fishman are already intimidating world wide, they are already 10x's stronger than humans. Don't go in depth thinking about this (meaning comparing characters) just view the whole picture of the story or you'll miss the point.
In the end a fishman is like Perona so much hype for it and many little things Oda put in the story to get the readers to think they'll join forgetting that is almost is or borderline bad story telling. Oda's a beast keeping the younger crowd and the mature crowd still interested in this yet but still simple story.
Once you fix that you'll be on the road to being better story literate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypseslice
well two problems with you reasons
one there are plenty of ways that oda can make it not so predictable and still add a fish man, a half/something half fish man would be unique. BUT i agree fish men are predictable.
the second is half of the crew is more than ten times stronger than a normal human so that fact would not really make a dent to the crew intimidation factor much, or seem over powering to most of the crew.
but i do agree, even though i think a fish man is a good idea for the crew it is a bit predictable and we (me included) may be looking to much in to it.
The "oda-being-unpredictable-factor" doesn't necessarily mean it 100% won't happen...
tbf i personally don't think one IS going to join, but i'm just saying i wouldn't mind, and the odds are deffinitly not 0% is wat i'm trying to say here.
And we all know that whatever 'reason' someone can provide -how frikkin ingenious it might even be-, it's easy as f*uck to counter it since it's OP we're talking about anyway.
And what use would perona and many others have on th SH-crew? none what so ever, unlike a fishman...
Now i know the water-related tasks could be countered by saying: frankie and his inventions can do those jobs, well as proven 2ce... they're not as solid as they look.
Who knows what lurks in the NW-sea?
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Originally Posted by cross777
Again with the so many ways Oda can do this and can do that, that's called fandom for the most part without any concrete story elements using it. That could be said for anything in any manga, just throwing shit at the wall. That's what some what were I was leaning on being any major reason for fishman as of yet.
And I even tipped you on not to look at it character depth or you would miss the point and you still missed it. Your comparing the fishmen to the SH's and not to what is common knowledge already in the One Piece world.
It is not just a bit predictable, it's vastly predictable. Especially since we learn about them since who knows how long.
Well even if you don't view it as Oda-being-unpredictable, it pretty much is that easy predictable outcome in the story. And he knows this and knows that it won't really have the same feeling of his regular surprises in his story. This is why Perona didn't join or Boa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flare Blitz
My personal opinion by the way on fishmen I think it be cool if one joined, want one to join , but story wise I don't see it happening.
FM you were right on the first one and i admitted i agreed with you. BUT on the second one i did not go on a character to character bases i did how ever compare them to the straw hats and it is also common one piece knowledge in the one piece world how strong some of the straw hats are, so the 10X human strength excuse for them not joining does not really fly. but i still see your point.
yeah we are all looking to much in to it but that does not mean it is impossible. but let talk about other possibilities. i was wondering if mister 2 got out. since he may not be able to figure out luffys message. don't you think he would go straight to fish man island looking for jimbi to get some answers from him, since he knows luffy was with him from news reports? so what i am saying is. so what i am saying is could we see MR.2 on fish man island? ik its unlikely but its a possibility.
Mr.2 has no chances of joining, Oda personally had Mr. 2's voice actor in mind when he was creating Franky.
Mr.2 has higher chances ending up with Buggy's crew than anything.
i think mr.2 will end up woth the crew at some point BUT i was just bringing up the possibility of how he can come back in to the story line not really how he would join. plus thats not a good reason voice actors are changed and mixed and matched all the time PLUS they also do multiple characters all the time. but i do see your point
It does fly....the SH's are new rookies slowly making a name for themselves it's not common knowledge as to the strength of fishmen been known for probably centuries now or who knows how long but definitely a HUGE gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by cross777
It's so obvious Mr.2 is coming back into the story everyone knows that. So mentioning him on this thread even though this thread is way off topic, just saying he ain't joining. And I know the common knowledge of voice actors probably way more than you since you complain about the anime so much. Oda himself said he wanted Mr.2's voice actor to play Franky's and he also wanted Ichigo's voice actor to play Marco's. This was years before the war was in the manga by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by cross777
yes i was just bringing it up because i want MR.2 in the thread i know its unlikely but it could happen. and me complaining about the anime has nothing to do with this. oda wanting a certain voice actor means nothing to the story what so ever. becauseQuote:
Originally Posted by FenixMarco
one a voice actor can do multiple voices in a series
and 2 voice actors can be replaced.
the voice actor that oda wants means nothing to the next crew member or who may or may not join plus
fyi Kazuki YAO did MR.2 jungo and franky.