That's interesting, I guess in the version I read online the image was too low res to see the pattern of the eyes clearly. The fact that it is different to any form of the Rinnegan or any other eye type we have seen is interesting. The fact that it is also similar to the Uzumaki clan's crest is also very interesting. This could be a hint as to why the Uzumaki clan (Nagato) was a good candidate for the Rinnegan.
Originally Posted by Zero
The difference in pattern adds a little more credibility to the idea that the Elder Son's eyes may have been closer to that of the EMS than the Rinnegan. The pattern of the Elder Son's eyes also remind me of Tobi's swirl mask. I am still suspicious that their are two aspects of the Mangekyou sharingan, as we have seen, Kakashi and Tobi both have eye powers that seem to manipulate space. Powers that seem quite different from the ones that Itachi, Sasuke, and Madara have shown. We still don't know enough to confirm why different Mangekyou seem to have different abilities but some are the same. Perhaps this is due to the impurity of the bloodline. Perhaps the Elder Son had all of the Mangekyou abilities that would be another possible explanation for why Tobi needs Sasuke. Perhaps Madara's EMS was incomplete, Sasuke still has a chance to awaken the true Eyes of the Elder brother which are also needed to create the true Rinnegan.
We know that Madara was attempting to recreate the bloodline of the Sage of Six Path's within himself but we also know that he failed for some reason. Sasuke seems to be key in his plan of recreating that power but so far we haven't really seen any indication that Sasuke possesses something that Madara lacked. So perhaps it is that Madara made a mistake and tried to complete the Rinnegan without all of the necessary parts, as a result his Rinnegan was incomplete and so he attempted to evolve it further by giving it to another descendant of the line to develop it further. This could explain why the Rinnegan was given to Nagato. Now the eyes have absorbed Nagato's bloodline and been developed more but they still only represent one half of the who, which would explain why Nagato's rinnegan didn't possess any powers that the sharingan has. Madara himself is able to use Susanoo with his Rinnegan because he was an Uchiha who had already mastered the Mangekyou Sharingan.
Tobi is now using Sasuke to completely master the Elder Brother's powers. Tobi has since obtained and mastered some of the powers that Madara himself did not have at the time of his death. The time/space abilities. As I said in a previous post, I think the fact that we still haven't been told how Kakashi obtained his Mangekyou Sharingan is very significant. I think there are other conditions to awakening a different set of Mangekyou powers. It is possible that Tobi understands the process of combining these powers but he needs Sasuke (the last pure blooded living Uchiha) to recreate the true power of the Elder Brother's eyes, then by combining those Eyes with the Rinnegan he already possesses, he will create the true Rinnegan, the one that only the Original Sage of Six Path's possessed.
What I believe Tobi and Madara fail to understand though is that obtaining the power of the Sage Through scientific manipulation will not grant them the power of nature that is truly needed to control those powers the way the Original Sage was able to because he did it by mastering natural energy. As a result I think that when Tobi/Madara becomes the Jinnchuuriki of the Juubi he will lose control and the Juubi will break free. Naruto, who will have mastered the Sage Arts by that point and learned to balance Bijuu chakra with Natural energy will be the only one capable of being the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.
You hate that because you cannot own sharingan:aetsch:
lol another one of these.
- In any case even the EMS is not all powerful every jutsu has a weakness. Edo Madara doesn't represent the average Uchiha he is the pinnacle of power so of course he was meant to be menacing.
- Also note The Tsuchikage's Dust release did destroy the other Susanoo protected Madara clones so the idea that Susnaoo is some kind of perfect defense is false.
- We also know that a Rinnegan user could easily absorb Susanoo being made of chakra
- Unconfirmed but I suspect the direct hit from a Kyuubi Bijuu bomb would decimate even Edo Madara's Susanoo to some extent.
- A time space jutsu is another way to get past a Susanoo defense.
- Using a powerful genjutsu or sound based jutsu to disrupt the users concentration is another way to get past it.
So yeah the Sharingan has a lot of upgrades and powers but its far from flawless so I have never bought into that argument. If you lived in the Narutoverse I suppose hating it might make sense but since its just a manga whats the point?
FYI: If I had to choose between the Tsuchikage's Dust release and the Uchiha EMS I would go with the Dust release.
the sharingan obv have its limits or hasirama wouldnt have been able to defeat madara with his wood-release and bodily powers, and i think lee showed it the best, if you can predict the attack but your body cant react to the attack then the prediction is pointless and i think in part that was how hashirama defeated madara, i also think that hashirama's powers or the senju powers in general, is unlockable like the sharingan but it is a lot rarer or maybe a special condition needs to be met, like learning senjutsu(hint maybe), as the toad elder said, it unlocks your body in various ways, who knows, he might have talked about this, as mastering the natural energies comes from matering of one self.
As with every anime, as it goes on, the characters eventually develop techniques that are hax. Ex. DBZ
DB was way better than DBZ and actually used strategy to win a fight rather than raw power. Though Naruto's pretty good with the strategy stuff. Best fight I still find was Sasori vs Old lady+Sakura because of that. Still I get you, sharingan, is a hax move.
just the shere amount of things you get or are capable of using simply from this 1 doujutsu makes it the most overpowered ability in the narutoverse, even more than the rinnegan, the only reason i can see why the rinnegan is deemed superior is the fact that you can use all elements AND can resurrect ppl, and i must say, if hashirama was able to defeat madara with a fully developed sharingan then hashirama must have had some pretty ubah hax moves, not just talking about wood-release and senju power.
That is why I love you guys: Great assumptions. My money is on the theory that there is a (maybe historical and long forgotten) evolution: Sharingan evolved from the Byakugan, and Rinnegan from the Sharingan. A few aspects make that assumption least likely. For one, Kakashi stated that "they say the Uchiha Clan's origins lie within the Hyuga Clan" (http://www.mangareader.net/93-83-13/...hapter-78.html). Further, the Rinnegan's shared eye sight is much closer to the Byakugan than to the Sharingan. The only thing that is missing is a clear Byakugan upgrade, and I think Hinata and Neji are the ones to do it.
Originally Posted by artifice